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Post by imglasses on Apr 17, 2016 19:46:35 GMT
Just to get an idea of how split the opinion of the forums is.
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Post by Acamaeda on Apr 17, 2016 19:58:08 GMT
I believe that Hussie's planning to do more than just a simple epilogue, but if not, this is not an ending.
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Post by pointycatears on Apr 17, 2016 20:09:08 GMT
There are a lot of unanswered questions, as well as missing characters, but that might be because the animation was in production before the events leading up to it, and some of the things that happened might not have been planned when work on the animation first started (Like the Sprite^2's). I hope the epilogue will answer most questions, and if it doesn't, maybe Hussie himself will answer them in some other way. I'll have to re-read the whole comic again to see how I really feel about it, but I'm too busy at the moment.
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Post by thezcmme on Apr 17, 2016 20:25:35 GMT
I have hopes that Hussie will tie everything together with an epilogue. Just depends on how long the wait is...
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Post by Neptz on Apr 17, 2016 20:31:46 GMT
I hated it but I'm alright with it now. Just waiting for the epilogue now. Depending on how things might go I'll either hate the ending again or like it more.
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Post by draconaes on Apr 17, 2016 21:44:06 GMT
Still not sure how I actually feel so I picked the middle option. It feels like a puzzle to be solved in some ways. A lot of Homestuck actually felt the same way at the time, actually, but there was always panels that came afterward to clarify things, if only through offhand dialogue.
I am prepared to be convinced in the future that it is an amazing ending, and slightly less prepared to be convinced that it is in fact terrible. I think one thing I would have liked would be for it to end with some actual writing, because Hussie's writing and dialogue are seriously probably the best part of Homestuck imo. He probably could have shoveled anything out as an ending and had me cracking up about it in that case.
The epilogue may or may not reinforce these feelings. I probably just need some thoughtful, erudite analysis explaining why the ending and story as a whole is so deep and complex and amazing for me to ensconce it in the fold of my personal mythology.
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Post by amiabletemplar on Apr 17, 2016 22:31:15 GMT
My answer is technically between "it was okay" and "it was good," so I voted the former. As an animation, it's quite good (though some of the repetitive animation loops were a little overwrought, like Jade when she was holding up the Earth)--and the anime touch was perfect for the explosive end. However, as the "narrative conclusion" to Homestuck, it left me with way too many questions. The LE fight being left completely ambiguous was IMO wholly inappropriate. Teasing us with Caliborn's incredibly lacking explanation of the "8 kids vs. Caliborn Ascendant" fight, and then not showing how or even *whether* it happened at all was shitty. We never got to see if the trolls revived their race (I mean, we can be pretty sure they DO, since CherubDad incinerated some of them, but it would've been nice to SEE it), nor the humans, for that matter. The real meaning or significance of the house juju, or what happened to the four kids put into it, or why Caliborn/LE should fear it, is left completely ambiguous. What, exactly, GT!Callie was doing when she created the black hole would be nice to know as well--we can get some general concepts, but the deeper meaning is very unclear.
Also, I really REALLY would've liked to hear the actual system behind the classes and aspects--if only to learn who was right and who was wrong about it.
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Apr 17, 2016 23:55:42 GMT
I voted for the second one down, except that I haven't really accepted it? I will wait until the epilogue to see if my faith in the webcomic gets restored, but I doubt it will. For now Act 6 is the shitty sequel that ruined the plot and every character arc, and it will probably stay like that.
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Post by Neptz on Apr 18, 2016 0:03:26 GMT
I voted for the second one down, except that I haven't really accepted it? I will wait until the epilogue to see if my faith in the webcomic gets restored, but I doubt it will. For now Act 6 is the shitty sequel that ruined the plot and every character arc, and it will probably stay like that. Am I the only one who actually REALLY liked Act 6? Post Game Over is the only point where it really seemed to suffer a decline. A few people I've met seem to have really hated A6I3 for some reason.
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 18, 2016 0:22:00 GMT
I voted for the second one down, except that I haven't really accepted it? I will wait until the epilogue to see if my faith in the webcomic gets restored, but I doubt it will. For now Act 6 is the shitty sequel that ruined the plot and every character arc, and it will probably stay like that. Am I the only one who actually REALLY liked Act 6? Post Game Over is the only point where it really seemed to suffer a decline. A few people I've met seem to have really hated A6I3 for some reason. I like Act 6, but the pacing was definitely far less tight in it than it was in Acts 1-5.
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Post by imglasses on Apr 18, 2016 0:26:02 GMT
I voted for the second one down, except that I haven't really accepted it? I will wait until the epilogue to see if my faith in the webcomic gets restored, but I doubt it will. For now Act 6 is the shitty sequel that ruined the plot and every character arc, and it will probably stay like that. Am I the only one who actually REALLY liked Act 6? Post Game Over is the only point where it really seemed to suffer a decline. A few people I've met seem to have really hated A6I3 for some reason. I did really like Act 6, even though I thought Act 5 Act 2 was better. I didn't even hate the retcons, I thought the idea of "escaping canon" fit well with Homestuck's themes. What I hated was the fact that all of it led nowhere. I thought that all of the cool plot threads, character developments, foreshadowings, etc. were interesting, but then they were just kind of dropped in Act 7.
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Apr 18, 2016 0:28:01 GMT
I voted for the second one down, except that I haven't really accepted it? I will wait until the epilogue to see if my faith in the webcomic gets restored, but I doubt it will. For now Act 6 is the shitty sequel that ruined the plot and every character arc, and it will probably stay like that. Am I the only one who actually REALLY liked Act 6? Post Game Over is the only point where it really seemed to suffer a decline. A few people I've met seem to have really hated A6I3 for some reason. I did like it, not as much as Acts 1-5, but I did thought it was still good. But the retcons and the ending really ruined it for me because it made me realize that the majority of act 6 was a huge waste of time, and now that I look back on it a lot of it was filler. A lot of stuff that got brought up in act 6 didn't get closure. Although I do feel you. I'm in the minority who like A6I3 and the trickster arc.
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Post by Shadow of the Lotus on Apr 18, 2016 0:54:54 GMT
If there was an option for "the animation was great but the story itself left me unsatisfied," I think that'd be the top.
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Post by imglasses on Apr 18, 2016 1:00:02 GMT
If there was an option for "the animation was great but the story itself left me unsatisfied," I think that'd be the top. I'm sure about everyone feels that way. I guess the question is whether the awesome visuals make up for the terrible story ending or not.
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Post by yggdrasilsyeoman on Apr 18, 2016 1:32:49 GMT
I voted for the second one down, except that I haven't really accepted it? I will wait until the epilogue to see if my faith in the webcomic gets restored, but I doubt it will. For now Act 6 is the shitty sequel that ruined the plot and every character arc, and it will probably stay like that. Am I the only one who actually REALLY liked Act 6? Post Game Over is the only point where it really seemed to suffer a decline. A few people I've met seem to have really hated A6I3 for some reason. Loved Act 6. Thought it was riveting and thematically cohesive throughout. It wasn't until I realized the retcon was really going to stick partway through A7 that I began to feel utterly betrayed and baffled by A6A6I5 onward.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 18, 2016 1:43:44 GMT
I'm not totally sure about Act 6. In my current third read, I'm currently on Murderstuck, and I have to say, Act 5 Act 2 is easily the most enjoyable portion so far with humorous and insightful dialogue mixed in with plenty of plot stuff and not much relationship drama.
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Post by NorthernDruid on Apr 18, 2016 2:13:30 GMT
I would've loved to see more details on the specifics, especially the hosue juju and the black holes. Nothing that can't be cleared up later in an epilogue or in author comments, but it would be nice to have some more clear explanations on stuff like whether or not Union Jack's headsplosion was any relevant at all or what excact ramification destroying the Green Sun had (beyond the obvious parts of it no longer being there and the less immediately obvious ramifications of that again, like did the black hole it created suck up LE or what?). And not getting to see (read: understand) what excactly the house Juju did was kind of miffing.
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Apr 18, 2016 8:42:27 GMT
I'm not totally sure about Act 6. In my current third read, I'm currently on Murderstuck, and I have to say, Act 5 Act 2 is easily the most enjoyable portion so far with humorous and insightful dialogue mixed in with plenty of plot stuff and not much relationship drama. I'm at the same section (after Kanaya chainsawed Eridan, and now in Bec Noir's perspective). I forgot how scary Equius: Seek the highblood was though (I also forgot how brutal Nepeta's death was. I mean my god she freaking got bashed to death by a club). But yeah I have noticed the atmosphere is different in the early acts and I missed all the side-characters that got shoved aside for the kids and trolls in Act 6.
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Post by The One Guy on Apr 18, 2016 15:43:24 GMT
I did like it, not as much as Acts 1-5, but I did thought it was still good. But the retcons and the ending really ruined it for me because it made me realize that the majority of act 6 was a huge waste of time, and now that I look back on it a lot of it was filler. A lot of stuff that got brought up in act 6 didn't get closure. Although I do feel you. I'm in the minority who like A6I3 and the trickster arc. Basically this. This is pretty much how I feel about Act 6 too.
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Post by Arashi500 on Apr 18, 2016 18:27:15 GMT
I'm prolly in the super minority in that I was both astounded and satisfied with it. Do I think it could have been better? Definitely. Do I think it needs to be? Eh, I'd like it, but I'd be satisfied even if we didn't get an epilogue. I'm someone who hates even the best endings to the best stories, on principle, so I was flabbergasted to be as cool with it as I am, even if I don't want it to be over.
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Post by dldracorex on Apr 19, 2016 2:33:28 GMT
Am I the only one who actually REALLY liked Act 6? Post Game Over is the only point where it really seemed to suffer a decline. A few people I've met seem to have really hated A6I3 for some reason. I like Act 6, but the pacing was definitely far less tight in it than it was in Acts 1-5. Does anyone actually remember Act 1? The pacing was terrible, and very little, if anything, made sense. It was still good, but it definitely was nowhere near as good as Act 6. This is why, when you try to get someone to read Homestuck, you have to say "just keep going, it gets better".
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 19, 2016 3:52:39 GMT
I like Act 6, but the pacing was definitely far less tight in it than it was in Acts 1-5. Does anyone actually remember Act 1? The pacing was terrible, and very little, if anything, made sense. It was still good, but it definitely was nowhere near as good as Act 6. This is why, when you try to get someone to read Homestuck, you have to say "just keep going, it gets better". Well yeah, but while Act 1 is slow, 1-5 still go by faster than all of Act 6.
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Apr 19, 2016 5:18:07 GMT
I didn't like acts 1 and 2 when I first read them, but I really enjoyed them when I did my second playthrough mainly because it was just fun to read the dialogue and watch Rose fail at playing the game. And it was just fun to see John do random shit in general. A lot of my favourite quotes and pages come from the early acts too, like this one. It was just mainly the humor that entertained me as I was reading them and they're far more shorter than Act 6, which takes up half of the comic.
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Post by jacquerel on Apr 19, 2016 8:53:28 GMT
I've read a lot of books that gave less closure at the end and still left me satisfied, I didn't have a problem with this ending. Yeah there are plenty of questions that never got answers, but the future fate of all the living characters is pretty clear, and frankly that's pretty much all I care about.
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Post by obsidalicious on Apr 19, 2016 9:01:14 GMT
the future fate of all the living characters is pretty clear Is it? When the Big Bad, an omnicidal force of destruction who manifests in countless universes may not actually be dealt with, is the fate of the living characters clear?
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