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Post by therationaldove on Apr 5, 2016 23:41:30 GMT
I personally like the ship. I think Roxy and John have a good connection with each other, especially considering their shared experiences. Also, it is worth noting that JohnRoxy is one of, if not the most foreshadowed ship in all of Homestuck. Seriously, it is slightly absurd how much of it there is.
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Post by researcherwisemon on Apr 5, 2016 23:57:37 GMT
John<3Roxy seems pretty solid from where I'm sitting. I'm pretty sure that and John<3<Terezi are going to be the endgame ships for John.
*Maybe* John will end up Moirails with some version of Vriska? There's enough foreshadowing for it that I'd say maybe 70 to 80% likely. I'm just not sure how that whole situation between Vriska and (Vriska) is going to resolve out first, and which version becomes the "Prime" version at the end of all the Green Sun exploderyness.... On the remaining 20 to 30%, i'd give a fifty fifty chance that John auspitizes either between the two Vriskas or the two Roses, because Rose seemed to have some rather murderous thoughts towards Jasprose. XD
But yeah, John/Roxy seems ready to sail once everything settles down.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 6, 2016 0:00:04 GMT
I always thought John Terezi was kind of more of a joke, I'm not sure. I still think it's partly to make John getting with Roxy not as easy.
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Post by researcherwisemon on Apr 6, 2016 0:10:44 GMT
Jack<3<BlackQueen is our only other concrete example of a Kismessitude and it still ended up with at least two out of three Jacks killing their respective Queens, with possibly the Third Jack (Caliborn's session) ALSO killing his Black Queen. Since we had Eq<>Nep as our textbook example to compare the failures of Eri<>Fef and Kar<>Gam off of, I'm fairly certain that John<3<Terezi is supposed to be our "Textbook" example of a successful Kismessitude that doesn't end up with one party killing the oth...er...
I just remembered the Doomed Timeline John and suddenly that sentence made a whole lot less sense in my head.
Anyways, I still think John<3<Terezi is meant to be a successful Black Romance example, 'cause the only other black romance couple we'd have to go off of would be Caliborn<3<Calliope and I'm pretty sure that's not the kind of thing anyone wants to see happening. I feel kind of weird even having written that sentence. *Shudders*
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Post by Octa21 on Apr 6, 2016 0:18:51 GMT
Anyways, I still think John<3<Terezi is meant to be a successful Black Romance example, 'cause the only other black romance couple we'd have to go off of would be Caliborn<3<Calliope and I'm pretty sure that's not the kind of thing anyone wants to see happening. I feel kind of weird even having written that sentence. *Shudders* To be honest picturing Caliborn in any sort of relationship makes me feel weird. That guy is just not cut out for romance.
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 6, 2016 0:23:15 GMT
Jack<3<BlackQueen is our only other concrete example of a Kismessitude and it still ended up with at least two out of three Jacks killing their respective Queens, with possibly the Third Jack (Caliborn's session) ALSO killing his Black Queen. Since we had Eq<>Nep as our textbook example to compare the failures of Eri<>Fef and Kar<>Gam off of, I'm fairly certain that John<3<Terezi is supposed to be our "Textbook" example of a successful Kismessitude that doesn't end up with one party killing the oth...er... I just remembered the Doomed Timeline John and suddenly that sentence made a whole lot less sense in my head. Anyways, I still think John<3<Terezi is meant to be a successful Black Romance example, 'cause the only other black romance couple we'd have to go off of would be Caliborn<3<Calliope and I'm pretty sure that's not the kind of thing anyone wants to see happening. I feel kind of weird even having written that sentence. *Shudders* There's also Eridan Vriska and Aradia Equius as examples of blackrom, though the former was already over by the time we learnt about it.
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Post by researcherwisemon on Apr 6, 2016 0:36:44 GMT
There's also Eridan Vriska and Aradia Equius as examples of blackrom, though the former was already over by the time we learnt about it. Which is why I wouldn't count Eridan<3<Vriska as a successful or textbook romance, given its falling apart. Aradia<3<Equius though... It could probably be 'textbook' had it been successful in the long term, and Equius not ended up as part of Lord English. Despite circumstances, though, I suspect it was enough of an influence to set Lord English on recruiting both versions of Damara into becoming the Handmaid... But that really wasn't a healthy relationship for any of the parties involved. *Shrugs* If Homestuck ends without at least one successful, healthy Kismessitude, I won't be too upset over it, but I think that's what Hussie's aiming for with John/Terezi.
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Post by ConstantTroublemaker on Apr 6, 2016 0:41:26 GMT
If Homestuck ends without at least one successful, healthy Kismessitude I wonder if such a thing as a "successful, healthy Kismessitude" can even exist on the long term... nobody ever said it has to go on for long / for life after pails are filled; it could very well be almost always transient, by its very nature of being based on hatred.
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 6, 2016 0:51:13 GMT
Am I the onmly one who still ships Calliope/Roxy? Was that at some point a popular ship in the first place? I feel it's SO underrated. About the only one I could see Calliope being shipped with is Roxy. And probably Dirk or Jake for Caliborn. It seems pretty cute to me. I'll sink with my ships though and keep to Dave/Jade and John/Rose. I'm still holding out hope that in the infinite universes out there of possibilities that John and Rose hooked up in one and that it might at least get a passing reference. Won't happen, but eh, why not still hope? I just want Rose to say that she used to have some kind of a crush on John, because that seemed to be the case to me.
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Post by thezcmme on Apr 6, 2016 0:52:06 GMT
So what about Jade Davepetasprite^2? When the update came out and they kissed it's a ship I didn't know I wanted until I saw it. Maybe it's because how adorable good the picture is or how good they seem. I don't know. Also I support Roxy John. Also I said this on the old forums but I'm kinda meh on Davekat due to the fact I did enjoy the other ships Karkat and Dave were put with prior, it's the fact it doesn't bother me that much. As for the people talking about Roxy Calliope didn't this page imply it a little? www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009631On the previous page Roxy says; ROXY: callie in times such as these... ROXY: ya know ROXY: words have trouble cuttin it ROXY: ca'mere and then the following page it zooms out onto the landscape of LOFAF. I thought supported it in some light?
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Post by researcherwisemon on Apr 6, 2016 0:55:23 GMT
If Homestuck ends without at least one successful, healthy Kismessitude I wonder if such a thing as a "successful, healthy Kismessitude" can even exist on the long term... nobody ever said it has to go on for long / for life after pails are filled; it could very well be almost always transient, by its very nature of being based on hatred. True. We do have Cherubs as an example of a "One and Done" style relationship... But Cherubs really are a special case in so many things it seems kind of weird that they'd be the textbook example of this one thing. If it was always meant to be transient, then I'm not sure why Trolls have the idea of "Serendipity" regarding having all four quadrants filled, because it would be such an illusive thing. They'd always be shifting one quadrant time and time again and it'd never stabilize. Maybe that's the point? To keep Trolls searching for this one illusive thing? *Shrugs* If it is, it's a bit of a let down in that respect, since the other quadrants felt like they had such a stress on being a ' permanent thing lest bad things happen.' We've got solid and examples, but no real solid or examples beyond what happens when a fails to do its job properly and keep two people stable and a ends up in the death of one of the involved parties. It feels incomplete to not touch on it this late in the game. Oh Well, whatever happens happens, I suppose. ^^
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Post by Shadow of the Lotus on Apr 6, 2016 1:46:04 GMT
About the only one I could see Calliope being shipped with is Roxy. And probably Dirk or Jake for Caliborn. It seems pretty cute to me. I'll sink with my ships though and keep to Dave/Jade and John/Rose. I'm still holding out hope that in the infinite universes out there of possibilities that John and Rose hooked up in one and that it might at least get a passing reference. Won't happen, but eh, why not still hope? I just want Rose to say that she used to have some kind of a crush on John, because that seemed to be the case to me. I will defend, to the end, the idea that Andrew at one time intended for John/Rose to happen but then changed his mind.
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Post by sporkaganza on Apr 6, 2016 3:07:31 GMT
Personally I'm kinda invested in the headcanon of Rose being a lesbian at this point, but that's partly due to me thinking it could be a cool alternate resolution to the John/Rose ship teasing, because honestly it actually was a thing. I think it's more interesting to use retroactively interpreting it differently to further/deepen Rose's character development (Rose flirting with John and to a lesser extent Dave because "that's what girls are supposed to do", trying to figure out her own sexuality - and in the early acts she joked a hell of a lot about Dave being gay, which makes me think she may have been projecting?) then to just have a line that's like "Yeah, I totally liked John." Because that wouldn't really be relevant to her character if it was just that, whereas if something is tied to a character's identity, it's always relevant.
I feel like John did have a bit of a crush on her at first, but it was never a huge thing and spending three years away from her probably just made him forget about it.
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 7, 2016 5:44:03 GMT
Personally I'm kinda invested in the headcanon of Rose being a lesbian at this point, but that's partly due to me thinking it could be a cool alternate resolution to the John/Rose ship teasing, because honestly it actually was a thing. I think it's more interesting to use retroactively interpreting it differently to further/deepen Rose's character development (Rose flirting with John and to a lesser extent Dave because "that's what girls are supposed to do", trying to figure out her own sexuality - and in the early acts she joked a hell of a lot about Dave being gay, which makes me think she may have been projecting?) then to just have a line that's like "Yeah, I totally liked John." Because that wouldn't really be relevant to her character if it was just that, whereas if something is tied to a character's identity, it's always relevant. I feel like John did have a bit of a crush on her at first, but it was never a huge thing and spending three years away from her probably just made him forget about it. I think it would show character development, as Rose has been notoriously tight lipped about her own feelings the way her male family members are.
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Post by alexffs on Apr 7, 2016 19:05:28 GMT
i mean polyamory is a thing and that's such a cute ship holy shit I meant do you think trolls would've seen that as legit. It doesn't really stop us from doing whatever we want with the system but it's something I wondered about before. I'm not sure, but I like to think trolls have polyamory as well
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Post by spadesnoir1234 on Apr 23, 2016 22:47:40 GMT
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Post by Neptz on Apr 23, 2016 22:55:32 GMT
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Post by Sharkalien on Apr 24, 2016 1:11:01 GMT
Obviously Dirk Kanaya one true ship
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Post by Shadow of the Lotus on Apr 24, 2016 3:29:38 GMT
Evolution of my Kanaya ships Kanaya Sollux Kanaya Gamzee (odd two out after sorting all the other trolls; made in 5.1) Kanaya Eridan? (same time; mostly just that Eridan was funny with Kanaya) Kanaya reformed Vriska Kanaya out of the story please I just want John/Rose GOG
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Post by sporkaganza on Apr 24, 2016 4:35:50 GMT
Evolution of my Kanaya ships Kanaya Sollux Kanaya Gamzee (odd two out after sorting all the other trolls; made in 5.1) Kanaya Eridan? (same time; mostly just that Eridan was funny with Kanaya) Kanaya reformed Vriska Kanaya out of the story please I just want John/Rose GOG wow yikes
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Post by Billiards Slick on Apr 24, 2016 4:49:37 GMT
I always thought Terezi Vriska had some potential. They don't really feel right to me pale honestly, but whatevs. Not really married to any ships personally. That whole Caliborn/Vriska idea erroneousAllegation used to float around also sounded really funny.
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Post by thecrystalship on Apr 24, 2016 4:59:27 GMT
Spider8reath would literally make me cry, but I think I'll settle for a healthy moirallegiance or matespritship with Terezi now. The ship is not that bad, it just needs to be more compelling.
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Post by Sharkalien on Apr 24, 2016 5:19:48 GMT
I too want my Grimdorks to be canonically making out
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Post by The Paradoxical Insurgent on Apr 24, 2016 5:39:07 GMT
I ship Vriska with almost everyone, despite viable ships being pretty limited with her. But Kanaya Vriska was always on my mind after Kan was devestaded about Vriska kissing Tavros. Appearent the person who got kanaya.tumblr likes it, too.
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Apr 24, 2016 7:52:58 GMT
My ships are the following: OTPS:Karkat Terezi John Vriska Dave Jade Karkat Kanaya Welp all my otps are sunk, which is funny since I was so sure that these were going to be endgame before the retcon happened. I think Karkat Kanaya is the only one that still has a chance of happening, and maybe DaveJade. I'm aware that the other two are sunk but it doesn't stop me from really liking them. Others that I like:
Sollux Aradia (This one used to be an OTP too, but then these two got less and less screen time to the point I started to care about them less) Rose Kanaya. (I envy people who have this ship as their OTP lol) Meenah Aranea. I loved this one and I still hate what happened to Aranea and there friendship in general. Nepeta Equius Karkat being best friends with Dave and Jade, and Dave being best friends with Terezi (I've always been annoyed at how people view as best friends) Karkat Meenah. I still disliked how Karkat and Meenah's growing friendship got completely dropped. Roxy John. I do think the ship has chemistry, and I think I would love it if JohnVris never became a thing. But since JohnVris happened the ship reminds me of how shallow JohnRoxy is in comparison. Dirk Jake Vriska Terezi. I still think they're better off in this quadrant than or .
I think the only ships I really don't like are Tavros Gamzee, Eridan/Sollux in any form of quadrant and Vriska/Tavros in any form of quadrant.
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