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Post by therationaldove on Apr 5, 2016 4:13:47 GMT
Yeah, I guess what I meant but plot twists was more surprises we don't see coming a mile away and something similar. I do think that this upcoming flash is not going to go smoothly, at least, not for all parties involved. Lord English is definately not gonna go down so easily by the ghost army.
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 5, 2016 5:14:43 GMT
Yeah, I guess what I meant but plot twists was more surprises we don't see coming a mile away and something similar. I do think that this upcoming flash is not going to go smoothly, at least, not for all parties involved. Lord English is definately not gonna go down so easily by the ghost army. I've gotta say, just in general, not knowing what a weapon will do for sure until you use it at the most desperate moment seems like a bad way to go about things. Vriska said the Juju is supposed to release some legendary heroes to defeat Lord English....but what if she's wrong, or if said heroes won't be strong enough to defeat him? And she's waiting until the dude's already there (or more already there than usual) to see if the weapon will be useful. If she's wrong, she's got no back up plan, no plan B.
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Post by sawkinator on Apr 5, 2016 6:14:18 GMT
I think there will be a fair number of revelations, tied to whatever loose ends are still lying around. I think the plot twists will be relatively few, since there's not really a whole lot of room left to explore the consequences of one, unless it's a big retroactive one, which I think would probably just feel cheap. One I've been arguing for and which really is pretty obvious is the "twist" that Lord English will not be so easily defeated by the exploitation of his known weaknesses, and that he is not as mindless as his enemies think. He has not destroyed the furthest ring aimlessly in the name of finding his sister's soul. He has not truly been duped into revealing the location of his own secret treasure, which will not prove to be any sort of key to defeating him. Even his weakness to cueball-related weaponry I believe will prove ineffective, with my theory being he eliminated the weakness upon granting himself first guardian powers, symbolically conquering this weakness by bursting from within an actual cueball. I think it's likely whatever alternate Calliope's plan is, and whatever "glitch in paradox space" is meant to occur, will also not appear to be effective, at least at first, though they may be the first steps in killing him for good. But I guess we'll see about all that pretty soon here, won't we? Yeah, one thing that concerns be about this whole fight (other than, you know, characters permadying) is that LE won't really be defeated. Aranea did say in one of her expositions that the heroes would show LE his first defeat, not his absolute destruction. Sure she was probably referring to the timeline shown in Caliborn's claymation 'masterpiece' but it still makes me worry. LE is certainly no idiot, after destroying possibly billions of universes and no doubt perfecting all his schemes and effects on the timeline. Even with the multi-pronged attack against him and his cronies, will it really be enough to finally defeat him for good? In any case, I'm not banking on a perfectly happy ending. I don't want to set myself up for potential heartbreak. :c I can see one or two important characters dying. On another note, I wonder if Casey's skeleton army will ever be brought up again.
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Post by thecrystalship on Apr 5, 2016 6:21:29 GMT
At this point, I am starting to suspect more and more that it's the alpha versions of the kids who get sucked into the house and stranded on Caliborn's planet (or wherever that takes place).
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Post by DJay32 on Apr 5, 2016 6:35:11 GMT
Here's a question for everyone: Hussie is known to sometimes make things explicit and sometimes leave things implied but unspoken. What do you personally want to have been made explicit by the end of the comic, and what would you be okay with being left implied?
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 5, 2016 6:55:32 GMT
Here's a question for everyone: Hussie is known to sometimes make things explicit and sometimes leave things implied but unspoken. What do you personally want to have been made explicit by the end of the comic, and what would you be okay with being left implied? I think the only thing I'd want to know for sure is whether the kids who made it to the end are okay. People go back and forth with each other about what the ultimate fate of our main characters will be once Homestuck is over....and I think I wouldn't care too much what it was as long as I knew they had managed to obtain some level of peace and happiness after all they'd been through.
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Post by soeroah on Apr 5, 2016 9:08:06 GMT
I'm still kinda hoping for an in-universe Homestuck version of the Warcraft Chronicle/Hyrule Historia as something that could be sold as Homestuck merch, tying up some mechanics and mysteries once the story's done.
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 5, 2016 10:23:10 GMT
URGENT NEWS HOT OFF THE PRESS: NEW VINE RELEASED BY IPGD FT. THE HUSS HIMSELF. The question now: serious clarification or extreme tomfoolery? EDIT: so for some reason, I can't get the Vine to show up properly, so here is a link to the vine. Haha, oh wow. Yeah, by now I'm pretty damn sure it's canon, in one way or another. And in what way it exactly is canon, we might find out after EOA6. I'm in the same boat, I guess they were before my time. It is nice to hear old traditions are coming out of hibernation for the end though. Even on a temporary replacement forum. So exciting. Closest thing to context I can get. Blaperile!?KM Sumrall already answered the question.  Something that I have been meaning to discuss with all of you is about Jane's weird disappearance from the Condesce fight, as she is not in the lineup? Should we be concerned? Is it just that she went to prep for healer duty? Or is there something fishier going on? paperseverywhere, the artist of that update, claimed she's just on healer duty. > Final walkaround > After the four-year timeskip, it's John's 20th birthday > You walk up to Dave > He has his back facing you, and his arm around a male troll > They turn around "So hey John this is my boyfriend Sollux." Oh god you're the best Here's a question for everyone: Hussie is known to sometimes make things explicit and sometimes leave things implied but unspoken. What do you personally want to have been made explicit by the end of the comic, and what would you be okay with being left implied? Oh dear I have a feeling some people are going to bring up Davekat here again. xD I guess the true motives of the Horrorterrors is probably something that will never be truly made explicit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 10:37:12 GMT
I'm really hoping Rose Plays the Rain.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 11:13:48 GMT
wow guys you are fast when i saw amount of new pages in comdisc i thought that updope hit prematurely anyway, davekat is super-mega-confirmed canon i guess. that's kewl, probably, have no idea what forbid him from doing it in the comic itself though anyway now that we don't have to continue pandering around those two i hope we can reserve at least some screentime to those who actually need it for example jane jane, where are you why are you not moving jane please say something jane
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 5, 2016 11:22:36 GMT
wow guys you are fast when i saw amount of new pages in comdisc i thought that updope hit prematurely I think it's pretty sweet how we're kind of falling back into the rhythm we had years ago. I mean, at its most extreme pace we burned through 100 pages in 32 hours.  anyway, davekat is super-mega-confirmed canon i guess. that's kewl, probably, have no idea what forbid him from doing it in the comic itself though I wouldn't be surprised if it's brought up in post-EOA6 conversations. anyway now that we don't have to continue pandering around those two i hope we can reserve at least some screentime to those who actually need it for example jane jane, where are you why are you not moving jane please say something jane jane I personally think Jake's in far more need of extra attention. :U
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 5, 2016 11:35:02 GMT
I'm really hoping Rose Plays the Rain. My headcanon is that Jasprose will.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 5, 2016 14:05:24 GMT
Hey let's talk about something that's not Davekat.
What's your opinion on the dark humor in Homestuck? I don't mind it much, because there's clearly a distinction between sad scenes with a touch of humor and humorous scenes with a touch of sadness. In my third read I'm on the scene where Terezi investigates Tavros's murder and I find it a lot funnier this time around than previously for some reason.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 14:10:33 GMT
I think Jasprose can definitely talk to the Denizen but I think the actual quest probably matters for CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.
And that whole murdercrazy scene is a lot funnier on rereads than initially.
I loved the Intermission too, but idk if that counts as Dark enough.
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 5, 2016 14:11:23 GMT
I'm really hoping Rose Plays the Rain. My headcanon is that Jasprose will. I could definitely see that happening. What if it turns out that after Jasprosesprite^2 set up the portals between the different fighting locations she decided to go to Cetus on LOLAR? That's something that might suddenly show up during the EOA6 animation.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 5, 2016 14:18:51 GMT
And that whole murdercrazy scene is a lot funnier on rereads than initially. Have you yourself reread the comic?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 14:24:51 GMT
And that whole murdercrazy scene is a lot funnier on rereads than initially. Have you yourself reread the comic? Yes, at least the pre-Act 6 parts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 14:33:11 GMT
Homestuck's ability to near instantly switch from humor to drama and back is one of the main reasons why i liked it.
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 5, 2016 14:35:50 GMT
I'm really hoping Rose Plays the Rain. My headcanon is that Jasprose will. Eh, that'd feel cheap to me. It's one thing for a sprite (like Davesprite) to go to a Denizen and make a Choice, but it's another for them to complete the quest of the planet for the player version of themselves. And it just seems like something Rose herself needs to do, given her repeated instances of resistance to the idea.
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 5, 2016 14:38:19 GMT
My headcanon is that Jasprose will. Eh, that'd feel cheap to me. It's one thing for a sprite (like Davesprite) to go to a Denizen and make a Choice, but it's another for them to complete the quest of the planet for the player version of themselves. And it just seems like something Rose herself needs to do, given her repeated instances of resistance to the idea. On the other hand, Davepetasprite^2 suggests that every version of a player's experiences are important to the "ultimate" self, so I do think it's possible that Jasprosesprite^2 will actually do the quest and later merge with the other Rose.
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Post by kmsumrall on Apr 5, 2016 14:39:38 GMT
Here's a question for everyone: Hussie is known to sometimes make things explicit and sometimes leave things implied but unspoken. What do you personally want to have been made explicit by the end of the comic, and what would you be okay with being left implied? I mean I would like the alt dream rose being fused into rose prime to be explained. It was initially handwaved has 'dream selves are wierd' but we learned a lot more about them later on. Davepeta hinted at how that could happen, the walls between selves are illusionary and all contribute to the universal self, but i kinda would like for it to be made clear exactly what happened. Oh and I want it made clear that Briska beat bec noir and has been gathering dead vriskas for some reason.
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 5, 2016 15:08:13 GMT
The thing about planet quests is that they are hardly mandatory and the only reason we all think Rose should play the rain is because Hussie keeps taunting us with it.
On the other hand, there is no mention of the possibility of Jake ever completing his planet quest, and nobody cares.
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 5, 2016 15:12:09 GMT
Rose, Dave, Jane, Roxy, Dirk and Jake all still have unfinished quests.
If we see any of them get resolved, I'd put my bets on Rose and Jane, because Rose's quest has been referred to so many times, and because for Jane there was already some progress to it (with Trickster Mode shenanigans temporarily reviving part of her land).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 15:12:20 GMT
Thats's just 8ecause Joke is the least important character whose "development" is 8oring. Eeeeeeeevery8ody already knows this.
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Post by therationaldove on Apr 5, 2016 15:17:03 GMT
I think that they all have to completel their planetadry quest. Whether or not they do is up in the air, especially when we don't really know much about the Alpha Kids and their quests. At the very least, the kids are going to have to make some serious Choices before the end, I'd wager, depending on what happens during tomorrow's Flash.
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