Pose/Post as a Team, Cause Shit's About To Get Real

This is essentially how I feel about it... I don't think "queerbaiting" is quite the right term for a work that is chock full of canon queer relationships.

As for the nature of Dave/Karkat's relationship, based on how people like Vriska talk about it (saying they're adorable "in whatever quadrant that whole situation settled in"), I personally suspect it's gonna be the kind of thing where they're NEVER confirmed as being firmly in any one quadrant, they're just kind of a vague red(ish) smudge. It would be the logical extension of Dave's whole monologue to John about how the lines of sexuality and relationships are blurrier than we give them credit for, it would be a fitting enough way for Karkat to develop past his previous state of always wanting to strictly define his and other peoples' relationships which leads to problems, and it would sort of be foreshadowed by Karkat's ancestor having a love that "went beyond the four quadrants, transcending the grid entirely". I mean, WOULDN'T a relationship that dips into all four quadrants kinda look like Dave and Karkat's? Two people who care about each other, support each other, help mediate their interactions with other people, act like best bros, get on each others' nerves at times, but who at the end of the day still care deeply about one another?

I honestly never looked at it that way before writing this post, but once the relationship is viewed as an extension of Karkat's character development, it makes a lot more sense to me as a sudden plot point. Like Dave going from "constantly making gay jokes and trying to defend his masculinity" to "accepting that his ideas about masculinity were tied into his complex about heroism which relates back to his abuse from Bro", Karkat basically went from "obsessed with rigid relationship structures to a fault, even going so far as to make dating charts on multiple occasions" to "someone who spends so long around aliens that he gradually starts viewing relationships as less of a strictly-defined thing and is happier for it". It will probably end up tying in with the whole "Blood = interpersonal bonds" idea as well.

I don't know how but somehow you always make me love Homestuck more than I already do. Like, uptil now I wasn't sure what to think of Dave and Karkat's potential romantic relationship and was ready to have it go either way, but the things you're saying here are kind of making me like it more.

Just kidding if you like that ship then what do I care.

What do I even care at this point. Just make shit up to spite me. It's fine.

I like relationships for the tragedy.

So which of them's gonna die?

Okay so this is how I feel. Not about Davekat, but about what is happening now, in the comic.

There is absolutely no way the Terezi we saw with Dave and Dirk can be the "same" Terezi as the one who Remem8ered. There is just no way. Think about exactly what happened. Terezi remembered EVERYTHING experienced by her Game Over self, and possibly all other selves, judging by Davepeta's dialogue. Which would not have even been written unless it pertained to Terezi. And then the next time we see her, she is completely fine, and doesn't even mention the content of her restored memories, or even that she remembered anything at all? When we KNOW that she must remember things that are extremely pertinent to the retcons and her original plan, such as the intended purpose of the wallet and the plush dragon. I don't think I really need to go into this more than I have to, but I genuinely think that Hussie is playing us here. We are going to pull out of a Mind synapse or something, and that will be the canon explanation (and perhaps even Hussie's original reasoning?) for the guest art. If not, then there will be SOME kind of twist regarding Terezi, but there's no way in hell that the one we saw in the most recent updates was the "same" one. Just listen to that final note in Terezi: Remem8er and you'll understand why that's impossible.

cookiefonster please note that i am not implying that. what i am saying is that your jokes can hurt people, regardless of your intention, and you should think about the stuff you say before you say it. its often good to take a step back and think about what you are saying before you make an angry post. anyway, im gonna leave for a bit to think about other things. i want this place to be nice for everyone to hang out in - and by nice i mean NICE - not that sort of fake nice where you are constantly annoyed by everyone but you can't state your true opinions, so you continue to be hassled around by people who don't understand why you might not like the things they say, so you stop showing up to the forums and have to find your own places to discuss shit.

anyway homestuck is good and i like these updates and im looking for everything to go terribly wrong starting wednesday.

There is absolutely no way the Terezi we saw with Dave and Dirk can be the "same" Terezi as the one who Remem8ered. There is just no way. Think about exactly what happened. Terezi remembered EVERYTHING experienced by her Game Over self, and possibly all other selves, judging by Davepeta's dialogue. Which would not have even been written unless it pertained to Terezi. And then the next time we see her, she is completely fine, and doesn't even mention the content of her restored memories, or even that she remembered anything at all? When we KNOW that she must remember things that are extremely pertinent to the retcons and her original plan, such as the intended purpose of the wallet and the plush dragon. I don't think I really need to go into this more than I have to, but I genuinely think that Hussie is playing us here. We are going to pull out of a Mind synapse or something, and that will be the canon explanation (and perhaps even Hussie's original reasoning?) for the guest art. If not, then there will be SOME kind of twist regarding Terezi, but there's no way in hell that the one we saw in the most recent updates was the "same" one. Just listen to that final note in Terezi: Remem8er and you'll understand why that's impossible.