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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 5, 2016 1:13:30 GMT
The fact that the retcons resulted in an entirely new relationship right at the end of the story means that there's likely SOME important plot-related purpose behind it, it's just a matter of figuring out what it is--and specifically, the fact that the story is INTENTIONALLY avoiding placing them in any one quadrant strikes me as more significant than mere shipbait. Having the relationship be a culmination of Dave and Karkat's respective character arcs (and as a contrast to the dysfunctional Dave-Terezi-Karkat love triangle) seems as good a reason as any, and we already basically know that that's the case with Dave and his whole speech about his masculinity/heroism/Bro hangups, so why not Karkat and all of HIS story-long issues with all types of interpersonal relationships? I think the purpose of it could be that, even if there is another retcon or more time bullshit but there is some kind of personality merger, even if Dave and Karkat aren't romantically involved anymore, Dave will have memories of a time line where he was in a romantic (ish?) relationship with a dude, got over his sexuality/manliness issues and established a good and healthy familial bond with Dirk. And Karkat will have memories of a time line where he got over Terezi and started being more honest with himself about his feelings of inadequacy. This'd be good for both of them, ultimately.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 5, 2016 1:17:41 GMT
So there's a vine where Hussie writes on a slip of paper that Davekat is canon.
Some people seriously argue that there's no way Hussie is in the least bit trolling us with all this.
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Post by therationaldove on Apr 5, 2016 1:20:43 GMT
So there's a vine where Hussie writes on a slip of paper that Davekat is canon. Some people seriously argue that there's no way Hussie is in the least bit trolling us with all this. He could be, but considering everything, I feel like, at this point. Dave and Karkat are 100% without a doubt in a relationship. So, I don't really understand why people still think otherwise.
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Post by kmsumrall on Apr 5, 2016 1:20:45 GMT
I'm assuiming it means "So What I Got From This Thread Is" followed by incomprehensive bullshit. close, its So what I'm getting from this thread is A ancient tradition in which I attempt to sum up what's been going on in the thread. Born out of people talking about Nic cage and condoms, eventually becoming a major part of of every comdisc thread. It went into hibernation for a while but was awoken due to the comic ending. followed by a string of things taken from every post starting a few pages back.
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Post by kmsumrall on Apr 5, 2016 1:21:14 GMT
So there's a vine where Hussie writes on a slip of paper that Davekat is canon. Some people seriously argue that there's no way Hussie is in the least bit trolling us with all this. He could be, but considering everything, I feel like, at this point. Dave and Karkat are 100% without a doubt in a relationship. So, I don't really understand why people still think otherwise. Huss once said that all ships are canon.
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Post by tentacleTherapist on Apr 5, 2016 1:21:32 GMT
So there's a vine where Hussie writes on a slip of paper that Davekat is canon. Some people seriously argue that there's no way Hussie is in the least bit trolling us with all this. Theory: EOA6 will be entirely composed of various versions of Dave kissing various versions of Karkat while the battles go on in the background.
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Post by lyla on Apr 5, 2016 1:22:24 GMT
Is it normal that everytime I decide to jump on a topic it talks about Davekat? I love the ship and all, but this is exhausting. EDIT @byzantineclairvoyanttheory: Good. I hope this happens. ))
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Post by therationaldove on Apr 5, 2016 1:22:50 GMT
So what I'm getting from this page is:
Hussie made a vine of himself signing his name under the words "Davekat is cannon" because people weren't sure if it was canon while people were discussion what i SWIGTTF means.
Or something along those lines
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 1:26:01 GMT
I want Karkat to fight Echidna.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 5, 2016 1:29:08 GMT
Is it normal that everytime I decide to jump on a topic it talks about Davekat? I love the ship and all, but this is exhausting. I'm not sure. Davekat is just so heavily debated, but then again it might just be your luck. And yeah, the debates are just as exhausting from my end.
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Post by headwind on Apr 5, 2016 1:30:13 GMT
So what I'm getting from this thread is A ancient tradition in which I attempt to sum up what's been going on in the thread. Born out of people talking about Nic cage and condoms, eventually becoming a major part of of every comdisc thread. It went into hibernation for a while but was awoken due to the comic ending. First time I see the SWIGFTTI. I see that it is a kind of summary, a wrap-up, a recap. I enjoy the indisputably unique, really unique clarity that this synopsis has added to the thread. Thanks, kmsumrall, for this glimpse into the traditional arts of forum summarizing!
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Post by trixolotl on Apr 5, 2016 1:31:03 GMT
Is it normal that everytime I decide to jump on a topic it talks about Davekat? I love the ship and all, but this is exhausting. I'm not sure. Davekat is just so heavily debated, but then again it might just be your luck. And yeah, the debates are just as exhausting from my end. maybe we could make a davekat quarantine thread?
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Post by lyla on Apr 5, 2016 1:37:28 GMT
Is it normal that everytime I decide to jump on a topic it talks about Davekat? I love the ship and all, but this is exhausting. I'm not sure. Davekat is just so heavily debated, but then again it might just be your luck. And yeah, the debates are just as exhausting from my end. Dude, I'm sorry to say this, but you are one of the people who brings it up the most. Why are you replying to me that you're not sure? But seriously, I'm done talking about this. Next time I open this thread I hope it's not talking about Davekat.
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Post by therationaldove on Apr 5, 2016 1:41:40 GMT
Something that I have been meaning to discuss with all of you is about Jane's weird disappearance from the Condesce fight, as she is not in the lineup? Should we be concerned? Is it just that she went to prep for healer duty? Or is there something fishier going on?
Additionally: how many plot twists/ revelations are we anticipating to come out of the impending flash?
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 5, 2016 1:43:51 GMT
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 5, 2016 1:43:53 GMT
I'm not sure. Davekat is just so heavily debated, but then again it might just be your luck. And yeah, the debates are just as exhausting from my end. maybe we could make a davekat quarantine thread? At one point I made such a thread on the forums but it got closed down because they felt it wasn't necessary. But now such a thread really could be useful. And yeah, I know I talk about Davekat a lot and complain about how it's talked about a lot. I'm sorry about that but I can't help chiming in about it. If everyone switched their views on the ship to match mine stopped getting caught in those repetitive debates, THEN everything would be fine.
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Post by candor on Apr 5, 2016 1:44:55 GMT
Regarding that IPGD vine without having an opinion on whether or not Davekat is actually canon, I like how Andrew Hussie has so thoroughly inoculated himself from being taken seriously when he talks about the future plot of Homestuck. His reputation as a consummate troll means that he could spoil the entirety of the remaining plot of the comic publicly and still not be taken seriously. So, from my perspective, it looks a lot like Shroedinger's ship.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 5, 2016 1:50:41 GMT
Regarding that IPGD vine without having an opinion on whether or not Davekat is actually canon, I like how Andrew Hussie has so thoroughly inoculated himself from being taken seriously when he talks about the future plot of Homestuck. His reputation as a consummate troll means that he could spoil the entirety of the remaining plot of the comic publicly and still not be taken seriously. So, from my perspective, it looks a lot like Shroedinger's ship. At least you don't insist there's zero chance that Hussie is at least slightly messing with readers.
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Post by thecrystalship on Apr 5, 2016 2:01:35 GMT
> Final walkaround > After the four-year timeskip, it's John's 20th birthday > You walk up to Dave > He has his back facing you, and his arm around a male troll > They turn around
"So hey John this is my boyfriend Sollux."
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Post by soeroah on Apr 5, 2016 2:10:15 GMT
Man, it's so surreal seeing old faces show back up, and people who'd usually keep to specific threads on the old forums suddenly merging in with this forum's Comdisc.
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Post by kmsumrall on Apr 5, 2016 2:13:51 GMT
Man, it's so surreal seeing old faces show back up, and people who'd usually keep to specific threads on the old forums suddenly merging in with this forum's Comdisc. Yeah I used to mainly hang out in vriska thread
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 5, 2016 2:54:18 GMT
I did say that the end of Homestuck could bring some old folks out from hiding. And some folks probably never left but lost their enthusiasm for posting.
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Post by therationaldove on Apr 5, 2016 3:35:05 GMT
I'm sure there are a bunch of those older people still lurking, reading this thread most likely after eharing the news that this is our new base of operations (hopefully).
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Post by Shadow of the Lotus on Apr 5, 2016 3:38:23 GMT
I'm sure there are a bunch of those older people still lurking, reading this thread most likely after eharing the news that this is our new base of operations (hopefully). I'm hoping so... I'm still waiting for older faces to show up. Mostly Telamon, actually.
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Post by Gab on Apr 5, 2016 3:56:18 GMT
Something that I have been meaning to discuss with all of you is about Jane's weird disappearance from the Condesce fight, as she is not in the lineup? Should we be concerned? Is it just that she went to prep for healer duty? Or is there something fishier going on? Additionally: how many plot twists/ revelations are we anticipating to come out of the impending flash? It's been suggested before and I agree, Jane probably hightailed it out of there as the Condesce showed up, since she's neither meant to remain in any one place too long, nor get caught up in any of the fraying if she can help it. Combined with the fact she's been a target of the Condesce in the past, I'm sure she's in no hurry to stay put regardless. I think there will be a fair number of revelations, tied to whatever loose ends are still lying around. I think the plot twists will be relatively few, since there's not really a whole lot of room left to explore the consequences of one, unless it's a big retroactive one, which I think would probably just feel cheap. One I've been arguing for and which really is pretty obvious is the "twist" that Lord English will not be so easily defeated by the exploitation of his known weaknesses, and that he is not as mindless as his enemies think. He has not destroyed the furthest ring aimlessly in the name of finding his sister's soul. He has not truly been duped into revealing the location of his own secret treasure, which will not prove to be any sort of key to defeating him. Even his weakness to cueball-related weaponry I believe will prove ineffective, with my theory being he eliminated the weakness upon granting himself first guardian powers, symbolically conquering this weakness by bursting from within an actual cueball. I think it's likely whatever alternate Calliope's plan is, and whatever "glitch in paradox space" is meant to occur, will also not appear to be effective, at least at first, though they may be the first steps in killing him for good. But I guess we'll see about all that pretty soon here, won't we?
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