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Post by Neptz on May 1, 2016 2:18:21 GMT
Alterniabound was great, yes, but it didn't seem to have as much content. Act 4 opener is still radsome.
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Post by melonlord on May 1, 2016 19:46:31 GMT
Taken alone, Cascade is an OK flash. Does some cool things with resizing panels and has some nice art, but I think outclassed by some other flashes in terms of music and art coherency.
Taken in context with the rest of Act 5, it's one of the most dramatic, exhilarating moments in the entirety of Homestuck.
That's honestly my main problem with Act 7 and Collide. They are technically impressive; on some hypothetical list of Homestuck flashes, presented to an outside observer with only a vague idea of what the plot is, they'd definitely rank near the top. But they fail as an actual conclusion to the plot, which is what makes flashes like Descend and Cascade so powerful.
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Post by TimeyWimeyHero on May 1, 2016 20:17:44 GMT
Act 7 all the way. I've always been kind of emotional, and I tend to prefer epic feelsy stuff than action.
Although Cascade is infinitely better than those two.
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Post by trollladygaga on May 2, 2016 5:07:39 GMT
Both are pretty amazing! I couldn't really choose between the two since they were both pretty big projects that had a lot of labour put into them, I love both a lot so, like I said, I can't really choose.
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Post by The One Guy on May 2, 2016 19:19:56 GMT
I disagree. Yes, previous strife music is often "just background with occasionally some synching up at more key parts." But there's nothing wrong with that; the music fit what was going on, properly set the mood, and never stood out as being wrong. In Collide there were many parts that failed at this. I honestly don't see why you think so. Oppa Toby Style felt chaotic, but I feel like that fits the idea of a gigantic multistrife pretty well - and the other portions sure seemed to fit as well, with Croata doing buildup, Eternity Served Cold being the darkest hour of the fight and Heir of Grief the heroic second wind. Late reply, but I've put some though into figuring out why the music just didn't feel right at parts to me, and this is what I've come up with: - Most of the transitions between the songs don't work: You expect a big payoff after the part we get of Croata, but it jumps to Oppa Toby Style, which has it's own build up first. Oppa Toby Style ends, and then ... time for something completely different! I have a hard time getting into the dark, somber mood of Eternity Served Cold, when I just got out of the non-stop energy of Oppa Toby Style. (Eternity Served Cold leading into Heir of Grief worked decently, I suppose.)
- Unlike past strife themes, Oppa Toby Style does have a lot of times it changes and switches things up. The action portrayed also skips around and changes things often. But the two don't match up, making it feel the song is overlaid on top of the action rather than matching up with it. And when thy do match up, it does so imperfectly, such as having the music make a sudden change in tone, but the music merging into it, or simply by having the music change to a different tone to what the action is portraying. (The part where Dad busts out of jail is the major exception to this.)
- Caliborn is looking rather cartoonish and the colors rather bright for what's supposed to be the dark part at the beginning of Eternity Served Cold
- Only tangentially related to the music, but Eternity Served Cold is the darkest hour? When did that happen? The kids were doing just fine up until suddenly they're injured on the ground, but let's not dwell on that too long, send in the fireflies as a symbol of previously unneeded hope real quick and get back to action.
- Once Eternity Served Cold builds up again, it's back to action at the same pace as done with Oppa Toby Style, but Eternity Served Cold is just slightly more slowly paced, and not really strife music anyway.
- Eternity Served Cold comes to a sudden end followed by some eerie sounds, but in complete contrast, the action does a fade out instead.
- The beginning of Heir of Grief gives off an air of people being awesome, yet the flash shows are heroes faltering. Then after the nostalgia part, now the heroes are being awesome, but the music has turned more wistful.
- While not as explicit as with Oppa Toby Style, Heir of Grief also has problems with the music and acting changing independently from each other.
- The last part of Heir of Grief comes off as a final push toward victory, but in the flash, the Condesce is dead and victory is already achieved.
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