Fate of the MSPA Forums

I think this is the unfortunate reality of the internet: If you let everyone post anything you are going to have absolute shit but the moment you start enforcing your rules everyone shies away and you are left with nobody.

Unfortunately, I don't think even that would work, since then you'd be turning away well meaning people who might not be fully literate in English as well as any legitimate offenders.

Very few forum issues are caused by poor spelling or articulation, largely they are the result of belligerence.
Your test would achieve very little except for being kind of unpleasant. 

...also on topic, the future release of Hiveswap would you'd hope perhaps point at some kind of deadline.
Maybe?

I'm hoping for something to be said, honestly. Has anything been said since that person from WP popped in and basically went "we're doing stuff but I'm A. new B. not allowed to say much and C. not privy to a lot of goings on too"?

From what I can see at least Andrew himself is still playing dead. Not like he was very active on social media to begin with, but still. Before he had at least some contact with the fans through the announcements on the mspaintadventures website regularly even during the mega/gigapause. This is about the longest batch of silence we've had, or close to it.

Now, it isn't up to me to tell him what to do and I wouldn't dream of trying, but I find it hard to believe that Andrew didn't hear of the situation or didn't care if he did hear of it. Maybe this is because he wants to go back to the smaller audience he had before Homestuck exploded? Well, whatever it is, I'm looking forwards more to some explanation of what the hell WP has been thinking for the past... almost half year now than I am to the actual game. Which is maybe on me, but it's also at least partially due to WP pissing in their own drink by not making sure that their audience stays invested in their product.

I really hope that Hiveswap Act 1 has your trademark great humor right from the get-go, Andrew, since I'm really gonna need it to get unsoured. Which is such a shame since I really want to be more excited than I am.

Allegedly. From what I remember, the general gist is that Hussie/WP initially tasked T.O.G. with making the game and gave them the kickstarter money to do so. However after a fairly long period of time, they seemingly hadn't done anything except a really bare bones demo, so Hussie pulled back whatever money was left and WP set up their own in house studio to make it instead.

Since T.O.G. released some other game(King's Quest?) during that time, many suspected that some of the Hiveswap funds were diverted into that product instead, but I don't think there was any hard proof.

Yeah, but also the Hiveswap FPS is abysmal. I hope they fix it. I know it reminds me of old video games but I really don't feel like playing on 1 FPS.

Also, a joke I saw in the comments of Hiveswap:

"TOG stole the other 20 frames" hahahaha

By that same token, before that happened they were practically an open book in comparison, so methinks that might have been the triggering event that caused the radio silence we're experiencing.

here's a full paste of ipgd's original post

it's worth noting that ipgd is close enough to andrew to take pictures of him and to work on the end of homestuck, and they haven't lied in the past (e.g. about content of final homestuck updates). so, while not necessarily ethical, they are at least truthful, and it is very likely that some kind of settlement was reached because no one in either company has refuted these claims

and it's not like the odd gentlemen hasn't let down creators before

odd gentlemen scandal was the beginning of No News and probably directly led to what pumpkin being so careful with what employees like philip are allowed to say.

The actual Hiveswap framerate looks fine to me. Character movement and continuous background animation (tweening etc) seems very smooth. I think it's just a matter of some of the character animations having stylistically low framerates. The game isn't running slow, it's just that there are no intermediate frames in some of the character animations, so nothing's actually "broken" to be fixed. I think it looks fine, feels kinda in line with the Homestuck style to me.

Yeah, I know it's on purpose, I'm buying it anyways no matter how expensive it is. It's the only way to show my devotion to HS (they dont ship to my country) so yeah i cant get shirts and merch

Yes, 'We're doing stuff' basically. It's nice to get updates on the progress on the new forums and all, but no questions regarding what happened to the old forums, what WP has been doing before just recently reaching out or anything have been answered because Phillip can't answer them. Again, I appreciate that Phillip wants us to be in the loop more as much as we do but it's not him that I'm upset at, it's whoever at WP made the decisions that made an unfortunate event that would have been a bummer at worst into something much bigger than it had to be.



Ah, I didn't see that when I checked when I made my previous post. Nor can I see it now, for that matter, probably the cache issues Holly mentioned. Either way, that news post wasn't very informative either, much the same 'I'm working on things!' stuff we've been reading for lord knows how long now. And all the while ignoring anything else that's been going on while even wondering out loud what else he has to report. Then again, a news post about supposedly cool shit he's been working on and we're going to hear more about in a couple of weeks doesn't really suit addressing a more serious topic like that, but that doesn't change that he's still not addressing it anywhere else either.

Can we please just get an apology? Or an explanation about how it's all a big misunderstanding? Or a lecture on how we're all idiots for interpreting the situation all wrong? I'll take anything, I just want some closure so I can get back to enjoying Andrew's work without having to worry about these lingering doubts about him and WP's management.

On a side note, I don't care about the whole 'TOG stole money' thing. It's a rumor with no proof at best and baseless shitflinging at worst, and I don't really care about all the kickstarter money showing when we see the final product, just that it'll be a fun experience. Andrew can go wipe his ass or roll a blunt with the money I donated or make some hilariously shitty statue out of the bills or something, he really deserves it for all the great entertainment he's brought us all for free in the past, and I donated to the Kickstarter with exactly that thought in mind. Well, maybe not exactly like that. I'm fairly sure that ass wiping was a part of it in some sense though.