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Post by therationaldove on May 4, 2016 20:51:38 GMT
I've never been too keen on the prospect of GoT for much of the same reasons I don't feel the need to watch Breaking Bad or other, similarly dark shows: I'm way too much of an optimist to buy into the sheer level of negativity and pessimism those kinds of shows portray. Having one character, or even an entire organization who has the philosophy of "life is meaningless and can end in an instant" is one thing, but when that becomes the basis for the entire show where literally anyone can die at any point for any reason, I then have 0 reasons to actually care about anyone. At least Attack on Titan has the decency to grant a LITTLE bit of plot armor to our main 3 protagonists, from what I hear GoT had a protagonist family that were killed within the first season. For me, the intriguing thing about Breaking Bad is the idea of following someone who would, under normal circumstances, be the villain but instead portrayed as the hero. I think it really gets you thinking about the complexities of humanity and how we choose to characterized the people we love or hate. Same thing with the anime Death Note. Light Yagami is the traditional bad guy with L as the traditional hero, yet there is a part of you that wants to see Light come out on top because he has this drive to do something that he feels is right, even though it is wrong. At least, those are the reasons why I like those shows. I do agree with that, though. I think a relentlessly positive story is as uninteresting as a relentlessly negative one. A story is interesting when it tackles the complexities of humanity and life, rather than painting it one way or another. At least, that's how I feel.
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Post by Neptz on May 4, 2016 21:22:16 GMT
yeah don't give me anything that's literally trickster except less creepy (This could be acceptable if there was a underlying mystery to it. Everyone is so happy and the book is so happy, but re-read it a few times and you notice a few things left intentionally "wrong"... ) don't give me "The Dark Books of Death" written by coldsteel the hedgehog either
also the villain protagonist trope is very interesting
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Post by PlatinumUmbreon on May 4, 2016 21:26:11 GMT
It is, indeed.
Though I prefer anything with complex characters. I'm not a big fan of one-dimensional characters. (Indeed, I plan to have my characters more complicated once I know my adventure's gonna make it.) I think complexity make characters relateable, or at least more interesting, and it's probably why things like Undertale and Homestuck were popular.
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Post by sigh on May 4, 2016 21:51:43 GMT
Perhaps Breaking Bad was a poor example of what I meant, but I find that's a common theme among many stereotypical "HBO" shows. They try so hard to be dark in the name of realism, but reality has happy endings too! Maybe if these kinds of shows (and the fans of them) didn't advocate themselves as the bastion of cold hard truth in an avalanche of foolishly positive media I could tolerate them more.
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Post by Arashi500 on May 4, 2016 22:10:52 GMT
I just saw the latest Dragon Ball Super episode (41), and it had a sequence that very much reminded me of Act 7.
Also been pouring gasoline on my love of Star Wars by bingeing the 2D and 3D Clone Wars series and the newer Rebels animated series. Finished both Clone Wars over the last 2 months and am almost through Rebels.
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Post by thezcmme on May 5, 2016 0:57:48 GMT
I've just read the first Volume of Scott Pilgrim by Bryan Lee O' Malley and it's really good. I've seen the movie (which I thought was good) and I believe I saw some Homestuck art by the author somewhere so I decided those were good enough reasons to go and read Volume 1 and I really enjoyed it.
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Post by Arashi500 on May 5, 2016 1:25:14 GMT
I've just read the first Volume of Scott Pilgrim by Bryan Lee O' Malley and it's really good. I've seen the movie (which I thought was good) and I believe I saw some Homestuck art by the author somewhere so I decided those were good enough reasons to go and read Volume 1 and I really enjoyed it. Bryan Lee O'Malley actually interviewed Hussie a while back if you wanna read it. I fucking love Scott Pilgrim. It was actually my first step towards getting into Homestuck since I originally came upon it the same way I did Homestuck. By figuring out where all the great avatars for an old forumI used to frequent came from. First they were Scott Pilgrim avvys, mostly Wallace Wells, and then a bunch of Karkat ones around the start of Act 5 Act 1. I'd figured they had good enough taste to lead me to Scott Pilgrim, might as well check out what else had appealed to them. But yeah, the movie is really good in it's own right (it's a fucking crying shame it did so poorly...), but it loses the plot of the books after the events of Book 3, which makes sense since only 1-3 were out by the time the movie started production. But the books tell a better story IMO, and at a much better pace. Plus that O'Malley art is just sublime!
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Post by thezcmme on May 5, 2016 1:50:09 GMT
I've just read the first Volume of Scott Pilgrim by Bryan Lee O' Malley and it's really good. I've seen the movie (which I thought was good) and I believe I saw some Homestuck art by the author somewhere so I decided those were good enough reasons to go and read Volume 1 and I really enjoyed it. Bryan Lee O'Malley actually interviewed Hussie a while back if you wanna read it. I fucking love Scott Pilgrim. It was actually my first step towards getting into Homestuck since I originally came upon it the same way I did Homestuck. By figuring out where all the great avatars for an old forumI used to frequent came from. First they were Scott Pilgrim avvys, mostly Wallace Wells, and then a bunch of Karkat ones around the start of Act 5 Act 1. I'd figured they had good enough taste to lead me to Scott Pilgrim, might as well check out what else had appealed to them. But yeah, the movie is really good in it's own right (it's a fucking crying shame it did so poorly...), but it loses the plot of the books after the events of Book 3, which makes sense since only 1-3 were out by the time the movie started production. But the books tell a better story IMO, and at a much better pace. Plus that O'Malley art is just sublime! Yeah, the art style is simply wonderful so far and I'm kind of excited to see what happens when I get to the part where the books derail from the movie just to see how different they are. Considering the start of the movie and the first book actually follow each other pretty well from what I've seen.
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Post by Arashi500 on May 5, 2016 2:03:45 GMT
Bryan Lee O'Malley actually interviewed Hussie a while back if you wanna read it. I fucking love Scott Pilgrim. It was actually my first step towards getting into Homestuck since I originally came upon it the same way I did Homestuck. By figuring out where all the great avatars for an old forumI used to frequent came from. First they were Scott Pilgrim avvys, mostly Wallace Wells, and then a bunch of Karkat ones around the start of Act 5 Act 1. I'd figured they had good enough taste to lead me to Scott Pilgrim, might as well check out what else had appealed to them. But yeah, the movie is really good in it's own right (it's a fucking crying shame it did so poorly...), but it loses the plot of the books after the events of Book 3, which makes sense since only 1-3 were out by the time the movie started production. But the books tell a better story IMO, and at a much better pace. Plus that O'Malley art is just sublime! Yeah, the art style is simply wonderful so far and I'm kind of excited to see what happens when I get to the part where the books derail from the movie just to see how different they are. Considering the start of the movie and the first book actually follow each other pretty well from what I've seen. It's not really the kinda story where you get "spoiled", but for the sake of it I'll be as vague as possible in saying the books are full of lies of ommission that don't really become clear until later while the movie just takes the "lies" and carries on much more straightforwardly, and ends up ommitting entire background characters for the sake of jamming all the events into a single movie. In retropsect, I really wish they could've made it a two-parter with the first 3 books as movie 1 and last 3 as book 2.
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Post by therationaldove on May 5, 2016 2:11:38 GMT
Perhaps Breaking Bad was a poor example of what I meant, but I find that's a common theme among many stereotypical "HBO" shows. They try so hard to be dark in the name of realism, but reality has happy endings too! Maybe if these kinds of shows (and the fans of them) didn't advocate themselves as the bastion of cold hard truth in an avalanche of foolishly positive media I could tolerate them more. I mean, if a TV show really wants to have true realism, end on an ambiguous note. When things come to a close, there isn't always an easy answer, good or bad. Sometimes it's a lot of things at the same time. I think that ambiguous endings are great because they give the reader better cause to think. IMO, bad endings are only good if they serve to force the reader to question/hate the situation that brought the protagonist to that point. 1984 is a great example of a bad ending done right. Reading the last scene knowing everything that the main protagonist has gone through...it's heart breaking and that heart break makes you hate the restrictive lifestyle that the protag had to suffer through. It serves that main purpose of criticizing controlling governments. The Genocide run in Undertale is also a great example of a bad ending done right as well. Grave of the Fireflies by Studio Ghibli is very sad, but that sadness is supposed to be a commentary on the suffering of Japan during and post-WWII.
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Post by PlatinumUmbreon on May 7, 2016 22:17:29 GMT
I got myself Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam today at GameStop, along with two serial codes for the Darkrai event. It seemed to be a used copy, as there was already a file on it, but I went ahead and deleted it to make way for a new file.
BTW, have any of you guys played any Mario games? I'm quite fond of Super Mario Galaxy, personally.
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Post by jacquerel on May 7, 2016 22:38:13 GMT
I've never played a single mario game in my entire life
(Galaxy is a good series)
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Post by Neptz on May 7, 2016 22:47:51 GMT
I used to play lots of mario but then I lost all nintendo consoles I had and other... methods of playing mario games tend to be horrendously taxing on my computer unless I'm running a older SNES/NES game.
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Post by quixoticTokki on May 7, 2016 23:11:10 GMT
Sadly the only video game console I've ever owned is a Game Cube, but then again I have Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, SSB, and a DBZ game so I'm happy lol. I used to have...Mario Sunshine? Something like that? But for whatever reason I could barely get past the beginning stages of the game so I wasn't really digging it.
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Post by thezcmme on May 7, 2016 23:26:31 GMT
I've played the Galaxy games, Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Bros 2 and think that's it...
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Post by PlatinumUmbreon on May 7, 2016 23:32:16 GMT
I played a quite a bit of Mario games, including both Galaxy games, Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, the original Super Mario Bros., Super Mario 3D Land, Super Paper Mario, and most recently Paper Jam. Though I'm thinking of giving Superstar Saga a shot.
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Post by Arashi500 on May 8, 2016 0:15:51 GMT
I got myself Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam today at GameStop, along with two serial codes for the Darkrai event. It seemed to be a used copy, as there was already a file on it, but I went ahead and deleted it to make way for a new file. BTW, have any of you guys played any Mario games? I'm quite fond of Super Mario Galaxy, personally. Paper Jam is pretty good, if only to see Paper Mario get some RPG love before Sticker Star 2 Color Splash comes out. It's not as good as the first few Mario & Luigi RPGs, and not nearly as good as the first two Paper Mario RPGs, but it's refreshing and you can sink a couple dozen hours of good fun into it. As you might be able to tell I absolutely adore the first two Paper Marios (tied for favorite games ever). And I've always been a fan of the majority of the red plumber's other exploits. Though I prefer the late 90's-early 00's games a lot more than most of the recent releases.
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Post by Neptz on May 9, 2016 1:08:26 GMT
I used to play paper mario a lot. I always wanted to play galaxy. My only copy didn't work and was bugged
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Post by Wesley Foxx on May 9, 2016 3:52:13 GMT
Sunshine I feel was severely underrated. Thousand Year Door as I've mentioned before is one of my favorite games of all time; I have fond memories of Super Mario 64, Super Mario Land on the gameboy was one of my first games ever. I've played through Super Mario Bros 3 before, and had the port of whichever one ended up on the GBA with the giant switches and stuff. I played through Super Mario Galaxy and thought it was alright. Haven't played a whole bunch of them.
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Post by therationaldove on May 10, 2016 23:52:35 GMT
I haven't played a ton of Mario games, but I have enjoyed all of the ones I have played. I have the original Super Mario Bros on my 3DS, which I think everyone who is interested in games should play at least once, if only because of its cultural significance. Definately a classic. I'm surprised how many people I have talked to who play video games often who have not played that game.
I'm more into Nintendo handhelds than I am their consoles (the only console I have is the Wii). So, I have really only played the Mario games on the handheld. New Super Mario Bros for both DS and Wii are good games. Galaxy is excellent, though I've only played 2. I haven't played it myself but, 3D Land and 3D world look really fun. (Debating whether or not I should get a Wii U or hold off for NX).
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Post by PlatinumUmbreon on May 11, 2016 0:25:16 GMT
I'm a handheld person as well (though I'm also a PC gamer), maybe because Pokemon games tend to be on handheld Nintendo consoles.
Super Mario Bros. is definitely a must-play. Because it's 8-bit, I'm assuming it runs well on an emulator, and there is the 3DS port you mentioned.
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Post by jacquerel on May 13, 2016 4:03:19 GMT
So Steven Universe huh, that was pretty good imo.
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Post by sigh on May 13, 2016 6:17:54 GMT
Pretty good? That was awesome! I'm gonna be really salty regarding what happened with Jasper, but aside from that everything was top notch.
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Post by jacquerel on May 13, 2016 16:16:32 GMT
Jasper deserves no better. Besides that's where gems come from, she'll be fine.
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Post by Sharkalien on May 15, 2016 3:44:07 GMT
Ahh, the Berenstein Bears! Truly a children's classic :-) Who could forget the Berenstein Bears!
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