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Post by titanicNightfall on Mar 4, 2017 7:34:48 GMT
Meanwhile, Duck is the first person I've seen who, when reaching the end of A5A1 and finding out the trolls created our universe, completely misinterprets the whole thing and assumes it was made via Sollux's cursed ~ATH code and not via Sgrub.
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Post by Alma R on Mar 7, 2017 21:18:41 GMT
"I bet if past Vriska could see her right now she wouldn’t believe that was the same person." ~Nick
HAH
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Post by morganwick on Mar 7, 2017 22:08:07 GMT
Minda did, in fact, catch that Gamzee is a juggalo from the start. Not surprising considering he seems to be pretty hep to Hussie's cultural references. These “custodians” have been mentioned a couple of times now. I wonder if they are the paradox clone parents of the trolls, making them the equivalent of the kids’ guardians. That's a pretty quick about-face with no in-between. Turns out the Page of Breath is a different troll introduced in Act 3. Namely, this one: You won't see much of any of the trolls' dreams. Something about his waking life that might inform what you've seen of his dreams, that's another matter. Ah, Deja Fu. The art of punching someone in the future or past. Great for when you need to plan ahead. I lol'd. This is right BEFORE her reveal... Submitted without comment. ...okay, time out. I’m going to be honest here. You know this sensation when you know the finish line is not too far away so you’re running as fast as possible to reach it, hoping to not to dredge through minor stuff that at the end may not matter that much? It’s kind of a botched metaphor, but you get what I’m trying to say? Honestly that’s how I’m feeling about Homestuck right now. It has been a long journey, and there are less than a thousand pages left. I have felt like lately something Homestuck had during most of its time here is lacking right now. I can’t pinpoint what it is, exactly, but that’s what I feel. Given the many hiatuses Homestuck went through – and I think I just went through the part where the gigapause had happened – I don’t think it’d be a stretch to think Hussie lost some form of inspiration during the pauses. Don’t get me wrong, there are parts of what I have been reading recently that I like. Really, there are! But other times…yeah, I feel like I’m starting to persevere with this story if only to finish Homestuck and say I did. [drops the plot-o-meter several notches] It’s depressing to feel that, honestly, because I like Homestuck and I have many good memories with it. I’m hoping I’ll like more what’s left of this webcomic. Maybe this is…what being ‘burned out’ means. It can’t be because I have been reading Homestuck for a year and eight months, because I read Scary Go Round for almost that same amount of time and I didn’t feel burned out. I just…I don’t know. Aaaaaand Nick caught the post-Game Over blues. I thought the first one would be enough. The rest are all setting up the survival of a character that will make the Condesce's control of Jade (and Jane) matter less.
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Post by The One Guy on Mar 13, 2017 15:26:19 GMT
…This isn’t going to be some kind of ‘we have to [sync up our travel speeds/gain more power/whatever] and it’s really going to take ten years’ things, is it? Because I’ve had enough of that kind of shit lately, thanks to a certain video game, grumble grumble. I've got some bad news for you, Nora, though it will be less than 10 years. And then when that is revealed: GOD
DAMMITWHAT THE HELL DOES THIS MEAN THEY’RE STUCK ON THE SHIP BY THEMSELVES FOR THREE YEARS??? AND THEY WON’T GET TO MEET UP WITH DAVE AND ROSE AND THE TROLLS FOR THAT WHOLE TIME??? WHAT? NOOOOOOO???S?FS?G?FDG?
I AM SO MAD RIGHT NOW I DON’T EVEN
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Post by morganwick on Mar 13, 2017 23:12:33 GMT
...maybe he’s setting up some sort of universal kid disaster. Oh fuck, is that what John is trying to change with his arm dealies? He's not setting it up right now, but other than that looks like Nora's starting to get her vision back. Don't worry, it'll be sooner than that. Oh, it'll get shippy even with John with them. I was warned that there would actually be spoilers here if I tried to cheat this, so I’m just going to leave it alone for now. Good screener. Best protector. Eh, not quite that bad. It just comes out in a "weird annoying voice". Hold on to that for at least the rest of Act 5. Huh, most bloggers latch on to "beenary". Why does he even care? She’s going to die by his hands anyway once he found a safe way. Or even if he hasn't.
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Post by Ariestinak on Mar 17, 2017 19:37:33 GMT
Nick just got to the point where Vriska's death is retconned. His reaction..., well, let's say was quite predictable. My guess is that he'll become even more bitter about the story from now on (well, many of the fans did). It's sad to see those livebloggers who enjoyed homestuck begin to hate it.
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Post by morganwick on Mar 17, 2017 22:05:57 GMT
UPDATE 163: List of Retc–oh, What the Hell? :DDDDDDDD After a big rant about not liking that Griska is going to "keep drifting out of Homestuck's plot": You're not only not going to like how big a role she's going to have, but what her role will turn out to be and what her character will still be like. I suspect after Vriskagram, and especially seeing how Vriska "deals with" Rose's alcoholism, you won't be quite so sanguine about it, even though everything else you say holds up. I had fun with Nick learning about the result of the retcon, but it really is going to be tough for him to finish the comic, especially after Vriska tells off Griska.
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Post by morganwick on Mar 28, 2017 23:25:34 GMT
Okay, it's been 11 days, so let's see how Nick reacted to Caliborn's masterpiece and Vriskagram: …I’m charmed by these recent developments. I’m not kidding, this is…this is pretty cool, actually! I’m very fond of Claymation, of amateur projects, and—this is nothing I expected. This is a nice surprise! I think this is the first time I’m looking forward to see what happens. This could be, dare I say it, good! Looks like Caliborn's Masterpiece will have him feeling a bit better for now! #otim That would certainly fit with the "Lord English is defeated by being trapped in the narrative of his own making" theories...after praising Hussie's planning ahead as revealed in the Mental Breakdown flash: Yeah, prepare to be disappointed again. I actually figured she'd gone through character development from the start, but Nick isn't going to like her making fun of "Joke" or putting down her ghostly self. Would you say it's... cool and new?
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Post by morganwick on Apr 4, 2017 20:49:39 GMT
Sorry to triple-post, but I've got a bunch of Minda stuff I want to get out of my system. Apparently Minda learned of Rufio's presence in Homestuck and how it resulted in Dante Basco reading the comic (though none of the details hopefully). Also, add him to the list of bloggers who initially think the Equius-Nepeta relationship looks abusive. So if anymore characters are introduced, like for instance Jade’s mysterious pen pal, they’re either going to break the mold or repeat some sets of initials. Well, Jade's "pen pal" will repeat her initials, but you will encounter a "troll" that will break the mold, except not really. That sprite won't be an exception, but not because of the Bec half. Your patron troll will have something to say about that (even though in this context it's setting up his reaction to Kanaya chainsawing them off). For now. How many bloggers catch that without even being prompted by the "Tinkerbull?" line? Submitted without comment. I c wat u did thar. He goes on a long analysis of what Aradia being invisible to Nepeta might mean, figuring it probably means she's dead, and then leaves off for the night with that "mystery" that gets resolved on the very next page. He's also so intent on avoiding Gamzee's quirk he completely skipped Gamzee and Equius' "role-playing" session, and instead ended up freaking out about Equius and Aradia's interactions leading up to the slap-slap-kiss scene. Pay no attention to the shape of that "blur of light". That's just after starting Karkat's troll romance rant to Vriska. He also grasps moirallegiance pretty quickly, after it's mentioned in Kanaya's conversation with Feferi and the revisiting of her conversation with Vriska. I've always wondered how possible it is to pick up on the nuances of troll romance before the exposition, and it looks like Minda has partly answered that question. Nora begs to differ on the first point (we'll see if Minda concurs when he sees the trolls' initial discovery of the humans), and I find it odd that he doesn't recognize the Skaia clouds at first. That's almost worth getting mildly spoiled... ...and this is almost worth being spoiled about the act structure.
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Post by The One Guy on Apr 7, 2017 14:17:21 GMT
Oh, shut up now. Can’t you let not even a version of yourself have a bit of happiness? I mean, that ghost seems much happier now, now that she saw how overbearing a Serket can be – thanks, Aranea – and lost any will to want to be in the spotlight. She’s more relaxed, just enjoying spending time around with Meenah. Just…leave this smidgen of happy existence alone, okay? You got what you wanted, you’re alive, who cares about what the other Vriska is up to? And he hasn't even gotten to the point where the two Vriskas meet up yet...
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Post by morganwick on Apr 7, 2017 21:46:58 GMT
WE GOT NORA SIIIIIIIGN!!!!!! Oh man, all this Dave/Karkat interaction is even better than I imagined. Do I smell blackrom coming on? It's not going to be what you think. Looks like Nora's starting to get her groove back. (I mean, this isn't confirmed, at least not in-comic, but it is basically the most common interpretation.) No one on the meteor; more like one of the people in the new session. I thought Nora was supposed to audio react to Karkat: Mental breakdown, but she seems to have blown right past it, and... Not...really? If the scene is what I'm thinking of, it's that scene that allowed her to get to the Green Sun to begin with. I get that there's confusion over all of Aradia's dream bubble appearances but...
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Post by The One Guy on Apr 10, 2017 14:53:49 GMT
Her reaction to Karkat with the bucket is just perfect, even if we didn't get an audio react.
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Post by morganwick on Apr 10, 2017 20:38:59 GMT
Alright, so who’s this source that Kanaya’s being all mysterious about? It can’t be that big a deal, right? I mean, she’s got her prophetic clouds, Aradia and Sollux are listening to the voices of the dead. Vriska probably got some info on what’s about to happen from Doc Scratch and/or her cue ball before that whole thing blew up in her face. So who or what could Kanaya possibly be talking to that would warrant all of this buildup? [the background of Kanaya's room changes to the horrorterrors and the server with Rose's walkthrough] ... [image of Amethyst from Steven Universe with a huge grin on her face] His reaction to the Tavros-Tinkerbell-outfit-Vriska incident is incredible. When Tavros first arrives on LoMaT, he's confused about him going through his second gate instead of his seventh and seizes on the narration claiming that it "seems to be" his second gate, and then: He figures it out once Vriska tries to manipul8 Tavros, but don't let go of that notion of the denizens entirely... Well, Eridan did give Jade the captchalogue code for that gun, but I'm not sure it's even really confirmed that's how Jake acquired it to send it back to Jade... I think everyone has arcs, whether they realize it or not. That’s life. It just happens. He doesn't realize just how much of a statement against the ending this is. Don't worry, that'll be fixed soon enough. Although between this, Dave's constant Freudian slips, and John giving Jake a pep talk, he seems to like these conversations enough that it might help him get past the Griska incident...and then you get to the point The One Guy quotes.
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Post by The One Guy on Apr 11, 2017 14:30:41 GMT
Someone asked Minda to list trolls between "safest" and most dangerous, probably hoping to see him put Gamzee down as "safe," but nope! He put Gamzee in the "don't have enough information to determine" category.
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Post by morganwick on Apr 12, 2017 5:23:05 GMT
Someone asked Minda to list trolls between "safest" and most dangerous, probably hoping to see him put Gamzee down as "safe," but nope! He put Gamzee in the "don't have enough information to determine" category. I can't help but wonder if this is at least partly because he's been skimming Gamzee's pesterlogs because his quirk gives him a headache (which means we have plenty to look forward to once he drops the quirk regardless). He put Tavros down as "safe" and I'm not sure how he'd have enough data for Tavros but not Gamzee, if he'd been reading both of their pesterlogs fully. Roxy takes Calliope to where the rest is waiting, and Jasprosesprite welcomes them. She hasn’t stopped talking. The first thing she does is brag about how she believed everything was going to be great, and compliments Calliope. Then…she starts pawing Calliope’s skull…and then she starts flirting with Jane… … …uuuuh…I think I don’t like this sprite. I agree with Rose’s response of trying to smother herself with a pillow. Sigh. What! How dare you not like the awesomeness of Jasprosesprite! (In all seriousness, I can't say I'm terribly surprised with this, or that I wasn't feeling similarly.)
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Post by The One Guy on Apr 14, 2017 14:49:17 GMT
Huge amount of content from Minda and Elf's return; a good 4/13 for liveblogs! Karkat sets this thing up to clear up temporal nonsense, and it’s immediately bogged down in temporal nonsense. Karkat's memos in a nutshell. It is, but you won't know that for quite some time. Wow, perfect guess. Kanaya being a beacon of light you say? And then he fell for misdirection of who arrived in the Troll session via the scratch, and had a complete non-reaction upon learning the trolls created the kids' universe.
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Post by morganwick on Apr 14, 2017 18:32:28 GMT
Dan. Can I call you Dan? Dan, you have to go first! Do either of us lose our man cards if I think this is cute? You have got to stop accidentially predicting things right before they happen. That brings us up to the point where Emily had stopped before, and also just short of where Minda stopped the previous night, and Emily also had a lengthy 4/13 reading session, and they both got to the end of A5A1 (with Emily covering Aradia's closing memo while Minda pretty much at the same time Minda was audio-reacting to it) with Minda continuing to Karkat's first conversation with John (without even changing the day tag as he had at the start of Hivebent), so I'm going to cover both in the order of the comic. my point is that however much bluster this guy kicks up throughout the comic, he can still never be called the literal author. irl hussie works through him, but that makes this weirdo nothing but a puppet and a mouthpiece, not a whole person he is as doomed as the trolls, the kids, and the outcasts. he can neither create their fate, nor escape it. not this hussie anyway. irl hussie can do whatever he wants because he is untouchable, even by his self-insert. and if the comic weren’t already talking about metalayers and alternate realities and such, i might be less interested in this separation of author from author insert, might not care if one is technically a character, a simulacrum bound to the universe the original actually controls. but since it’s one of the major themes, im desperately hoping this hussie has an existential meltdown over this relaization Nah, he's just going to be killed by his own villain, try to marry Vriska, and annoy his own killer's younger self. I see Aradia’s already burned through her extra life when Vriska killed her. So does that mean the version of her we’ve seen is essentially her dream self? Or did her dream self sacrifice herself to bring her original self back from the dead? *WONK* someone activated her universe powers and now she is the night sky, the pre-big bang that will one day rip us apart and create a new universe Submitted without comment. Actually, while a ring just like this does get thrown into a volcano, I think the majority of LotR refrances aren't actually directly related to this quest. This is actually more apropos than she realizes, and sooner than she thinks. At one point I was considering sending Nick an ask telling him to read A6A6I5 as the fanfic of a deranged Vriska fan taking it upon himself to wrap up Hussie's unfinished masterpiece. Please tell me there’s fanart of Karkat sitting in Lucy’s little psychiatry booth. Well, there's canon art of a troll you haven't met yet doing so... Oh it's real magic, but it turns out you're mistaken about where it comes from. Of course she'd later give a password for one page that was fairly obvious for another page. I thought you'd been warned not to guess the passwords! (And of course, cue the inevitable lewd jokes about Terezi's "mysterious locked page"...) So on the one hand he calls the missing word of Kanaya's land being "frogs", but on the other he falls for the "demon" red herring despite knowing about Bec Noir's existence, but on the other other hand he takes the revelation of Sburb's ultimate purpose with the sort of lax attitude you'd expect of someone who had been mildly spoiled about it (I'm not sure he had pointed out anything leading to it since the Nannasprite exposition). And even more confusingly, he acknowledges that Karkat blames John for leaving him stuck on the asteroid; you'd think he'd be making more connections here (I should note that I didn't listen to the audio react). Don't be too quick to assume (apparently)! Meanwhile, while Elf did make herself heard for the first time in forever, she didn't liveblog more than a handful of pages.
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Post by The One Guy on Apr 14, 2017 19:18:50 GMT
Dan. Can I call you Dan? Dan, you have to go first! Do either of us lose our man cards if I think this is cute? Well, I'm the one that just used a Hello Kitty emoji; if anyone's at risk of losing his man card it's me.
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Post by The One Guy on Apr 18, 2017 15:43:27 GMT
For the first time since I started reading Homestuck, the external link didn’t work. However, I know for a fact that it used to lead to a clip from the end of Con Air because it’s the very same link that was used ages ago when John gave “sweet Casey” the bunny. The link worked back when I read that page a month or two back, but apparently it’s been taken down after more than seven years. Well that sucks; that's a pretty inportant video for Homestuck. I guess that's the risk you take when you rely on external links. :/ It also kind of sucks just how much Elf has forgotten about the comic. On the other hand, she's starting to get close to John's ectobiology, and I can't wait to see her reaction to that!
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Post by morganwick on Apr 19, 2017 0:18:30 GMT
For the first time since I started reading Homestuck, the external link didn’t work. However, I know for a fact that it used to lead to a clip from the end of Con Air because it’s the very same link that was used ages ago when John gave “sweet Casey” the bunny. The link worked back when I read that page a month or two back, but apparently it’s been taken down after more than seven years. Well that sucks; that's a pretty inportant video for Homestuck. I guess that's the risk you take when you rely on external links. :/ r/homestuck noticed this a few days ago, and there was a comment suggesting that thread was partially spurred on by Duck reaching this same point. I guess that particular video only really becomes "inportant" when John sends it to Vriska, and it's mostly recreated in a flash a stone's throw from here, so you could argue that because it was still up in 2009 it's not that big a deal to have it continue to lurk around the comic. I do agree with you on Elf; her warped interpretations of events were always part of her charm, but she's forgotten fairly basic stuff and stuff from pretty shortly before she left off last time. But seriously though. It’s fucking Vriska, so it’s probably worth keeping an eye or seven on any schemes she might be cooking up. I c wat u did thar. Holy crap, I never noticed the "BUNNP" (I c wat u did thar x2 combob) until Minda pointed it out. So when I was doing character appearance counts I was probably short an SBaHJ refrance in A5A2. I'm pretty sure we don't, actually. And yet Nora felt her post-god-tier powers came out of nowhere and she didn't get any character development to earn them. Maybe Minda will agree after seeing her go grimdark. Derse!Dave has black, round (oval) sunglasses instead of the aviator frames that Wake!Dave has. I also never noticed that Dave's dreamself has slightly different shades than waking Dave, although it's probably just laziness with the art style in the image Elf posts. Obviously in sprite mode Dave would probably look like he's wearing his normal sunglasses. Nah, the closest you'll come to that is a troll that types in blue. They got all this weird stuff with only 4 players, I wonder how many players can even be introducted? Could the whole population of Earth be included in that game? The family trees there would get really convoluted, I suspect.
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Post by The One Guy on May 3, 2017 20:11:55 GMT
Welp, JiW's finally reached the Vriska and (Vriska) interaction: Okay, I read one page and I’m already feeling a bit sick. I don’t know how Hussie is doing this, managing to make me dislike Vriska after I spent most of her appearances liking her. In just a few hundred pages he’s managing to make me not want to read her anymore. It’s going to be difficult to write something that isn’t constant grumbling.
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Post by The One Guy on May 5, 2017 15:09:16 GMT
Despite the LotR quote early, I rather doubt this is goodbye forever. They’re likely to cross paths again, or at least affect one another on their travels. Rose and Jaspersprite "crossing paths" you say? Now I’m just thinking about what other ways you could kill someone with a broken bow. You could garrote someone with the draw string, use it like a whip/nunchaku kind of thing, stab people if the edges are sharp enough… Remember that first one... The conversation between Dave^2 can wait until tomorrow. You might want to save the "squared" notation for later... You can just picture Feferi throwing a trident for no reason. Oh, it won't be Feferi randomly throwing tridents... And he had a great reaction to [S] Jade: Wake up: I'm waiting for this to turn horrible because of what Karkat said. <...> Oh here we go, this is what I was waiting for!
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Post by morganwick on May 6, 2017 16:13:04 GMT
So my computer stopped working, possibly for good, and this is the first chance I've had to catch up on liveblogs on the new computer, so I'm going to work liveblog-by-liveblog and hide each blog behind spoiler tags (and I'm probably done with rakdos2002 for the record). Minda:
My initial reaction to this was "did you or did you not fall for the 'demon' red herring?" before I realized he was talking about the kids' Prospit.
Oh, he eventually finds out...
...and he's still yet to find Feferi's sleeping after the death of her dreamself to be critical for post-dreamself-death dreaming not to drive the kids and trolls gibbering mad.
Not going to work remotely like you're envisioning.
And Jade will embrace that sprite version before she embraces the "real Dave", by which point Karkat will have gotten his bug out of his hair about interspecies romance. Sadly I'm very tempted to bail on Minda after seeing that he didn't do any text posts about his reactions to Alterniabound; I'm still going for now since he's so high-quality and has so many moments I want to see him get to (though I still don't like that I had to drop Duck and LOWAS after Descend), but a future walkaround (Openbound at the very latest) could still drive me away. On the other hand, he does mention that
so maybe most of the stuff that's important he'd summarize as he goes along, but it's still a lot of content for me to be missing any sort of reaction to. Among other things, I'd like to know exactly what he thought about Karkat saying he "thinks he knows who [the demon] is", and it'd have been nice to have the full arc of his thoughts about post-dreamself-death dreaming leading up to Jade: Wake up.
...yeah, you're not quite grasping what's going on here. Has any other liveblogger made this misinterpretation?
Good guess. It'll also be the closest you'll get to an answer to the question of how Aradia survived Vriska killing her if not by dreamself. Also, he finally acknowledged being spoiled about the popularity of Davekat again.
Nah, this will have a different, yet more important purpose.
JiW:
We will see (some of) them one more time and get a hard sell on why they really were important, but ultimately... no, no they're not.
The sequence was set up to make the reader think Jasprosesprite was taking Jane to meet her denizen until Nannasprite showed up... #otim
Another version of Dave will make it all make sense for you in a few updates. I don't have anything more to add to Nick's coverage of the Vriska-Griska conversation to what The One Guy quoted (he wisely laid off on doing too much ranting) other than Vriska's meter dropping almost all the way to the midpoint. There is also the recap at the start of the next update:
Oh, you're going to be gloriously surprised at the resolution there.
See, I kinda felt the scene on the lilypad soured my view of A6A6I5 and this stuff was just more of the same, and the fight was pretty much doomed from the start since the retcon virtually started A6A6 over from scratch and the setup for the fight would pretty much start with the meteor crew in a fresh situation with no buildup and little reliable sense of the characters.
Sadly, unless the epilogue comes along before you get to the credits, you're not going to see the juju get that far.
Yeah, not surprising that he's just riding out Homestuck to the end.
Emily:
How cute, you think fan pairing preferences bear any resemblance whatsoever to canon orientations, especially if that canon orientation is straight.
That would be Eastern Alternian, and you'll meet a character speaking exclusively in it.
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Post by The One Guy on May 8, 2017 14:37:08 GMT
Is it just me, or are some of Minda's images showing up gigantic now?
Edit: It seems that for some reason word wrap isn't working and the full size images are stretched to fit, but it's just an Internet Explorer issue; everything shows up fine in Firefox.
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Post by morganwick on May 20, 2017 3:46:45 GMT
SkaiaMechanic has a message worrying about Nora disappearing, hopefully this isn't another months-long hiatus... No, but he does blame himself for its existence (after a fashion). I'm pretty sure there are other liveblogs to bring up the possibility of Davesprite's survival (though I don't know how many aren't Nora who was spoiled by cosplayers), but it's odd to see one bring it up without really believing it based on such odd, admittedly-thin reasoning. (Have we ever seen a sprite die in such a way as to leave a corpse?) I... don't think it's ever confirmed that the firefly John gets in the Act 4 walkaround is Serenity? In this comic, can't both those points end up bearing out? Or she can help work on Can Town with Dave. AG: Though you will l8er when I spew my feelings about killing him to you. Meanwhile, Nick actually dropped Tavros' meter because he found his gloating over re-recruiting the ghost army to be annoying. You know, it’d be an otherwise heartwarming moment, but I can’t avoid feeling a tad uncomfortable by the situation because despite their way of talking and all I can’t avoid picturing Dave and Dirk – or, well, a robot version of Dirk – instead of Equius and Nepeta. It gives a weird spin to the whole roleplaying about flexing and the impulses about touching muscles. I didn’t need to see such detailed image, Hussie, dammit. I’ll spare everyone the disgrace of looking at it. You all owe me a big favor now! First paragraph quoted so you can see his state of mind leading up to the bro-hug bump.
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