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Post by LetsTussleBoiz on Jan 3, 2017 9:14:27 GMT
Oh no. I don't deserve the credit. I just help out with a few panels here and there and talk to Neon about Nightfall a bunch. Also I post on the Forums a lot. That's about it. If anything, Jorb deserves more credit than I do, he mirrors the updates after all.
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Post by slangens on Jan 3, 2017 12:25:33 GMT
Recently, Hussie was at Shelby Cragg and Amber Roger's wedding and was kind of the minister? He was using a UFO book instead of a Bible. Lmao, okay that is just hilarious. "The Huss" is truly a man beyond any kind of reasoning. I hope to ascend to his meme-tier one day. Also, I don't get how one can find NF "cringey" at all, to me it's just honest fanfiction, and of the very good one at that.(*cough*JohnJadeFlashbacks*cough*) But hey, that's just me.
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Post by kankri on Jan 3, 2017 15:38:01 GMT
alt-reich kankri, why is that so in character. nightfall can be pretty cringey but its such pure fandom, i love it. was one of the first fan adventures i read after finishing homestuck (like a few months ago) and it made the vriska apologist in me very warm and fuzzy. i hope neon and whoever continue it I don't think I'm so good and nice, and it's obvious I'm very texty, so after some thinking I chose this nickname. And no, not accepting something is not equal to nazism; and no, I hate nazists (because I saw what have they done and tried to do with the USSR population; we still remember). Why do you think Nightfall can be cringy? Currently, I suppose, it's far from being so, and Neon looks like an author less mad than Hussie. Kankri, I was going to agree with most of what you said about Homestuck and Nightfall, until you started using arguments that are so wrong. The gay singularity of Hussie is wrong because the ships don't have development, not because homosexuality is wrong. Recently, Hussie was at Shelby Cragg and Amber Roger's wedding and was kind of the minister? He was using a UFO book instead of a Bible. Short answer: What my arguments are so wrong? What do you mean by "homosexuality is wrong"? There's the difference between "homosexualists exist and tolerated" and "everyone is homosexualist". Long answer: I know about the homoholywar. I dont't think homosexualism strengths society (if you want to understand what's wrong with ill societies - read something about the falls of Roman and Eastern Roman empires, about The Great French (two-week) war with nazists in 1940, about three Russian revolutions (1905, February 1917, October 1917, and adding a bit of 1937), about French revolution, about afroamerican problem, about late USSR, about Trump-Clinton and many other examples I didn't remember now), because I haven't seen yet homosexualists solving real problems like nazi invasion or EU cracking or something like that. And heterosexaulism, in comparison, made us homo sapiens - women born and grow children (hard work for many years) and work, men work-work-work-protect-fight-invent because they simply can do it because they don't raise children, and mammoths&tigers&spiders&viruses&snakes&crocodiles&bears did not eat us all. Because the jobs were divided between men and women. But. I also know I can be wrong (and I was taught some mathematical logic). I didn't see gays to be so good and useful, but the absense of proof is not a refutation. Maybe I'll see their shine later. So I don't think homosexuality is wrong, but I still don't believe some randomly chosen (even in America) guys in the end will form only gay pairings or orgies. It's like not showing non-terrorist Muslims or flying birds (all randomly selected birds will be penguins). I can see no explanation of it except Hussie's freaking/trolling. Oh no. I don't deserve the credit. I just help out with a few panels here and there and talk to Neon about Nightfall a bunch. Also I post on the Forums a lot. That's about it. If anything, Jorb deserves more credit than I do, he mirrors the updates after all. But you have so nice avatar... and you post more often than Neon... *sigh* and no one who deserves tells of soon updates. How disappointing.
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Post by LetsTussleBoiz on Jan 3, 2017 17:09:55 GMT
Oh I'm fully aware when the next update is coming. I just don't want to step on Neon's toes so most official Nightfall stuff that isn't just discussion or speculation I refrain from mentioning! Sorry if that seems like a bit of a tease, but it's up to her when and what to tell you about updates~~~
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Post by rastahatattack on Jan 4, 2017 0:05:44 GMT
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Post by JxV16 on Jan 4, 2017 0:48:44 GMT
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Post by godlessauspistice on Jan 4, 2017 6:17:54 GMT
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Jan 4, 2017 10:13:53 GMT
In Homestuck, Vriska killed Tavros and Aradia, blinded Terezi, created Bec Noir. In Nightfall, she did nothing like that. I wonder why. Even death did not destruct her love for power and superpowerful actions. Neon removed this (where are tons of dead shinobi guards and the ultimate battle between glorious Spider Goddess and the one who told shinobi to burn out humanity?). I suppose this is because she's not Hussie and doesn't love supermegauberCollide battles so much as he. Combined with social problems, her power is scary. In NF, she neither scared me, nor John. The one true sign of: she if different. (And I forgot NF for a bit, waiting for retcon to reread.) I know NF is started several years ago, but since Homestuck ended, tying them together is an important work. And when all pairings became homosexual, I'm outraged. ... Really. Hussie. I know you love boys now, but even at Kirkwall there were some relations between men and women. Do you know women have breasts? And these are not only for milk. Don't you find them beautiful? Do you know women can grow babies? Yes, these little continuations of your so short life. Do you know they're destined for it by biology - estrogen, mothership instincts? And men do not have those. Do you know that heterosexual relationships were established since the first multicell organisms appeared? So please, imaginary Hussie, tell me, why did you make all pairings homosexual. Did I miss the moment feminists crushed biology?
Or there is another theory that manages to explain this is not bullshit too? I do get what you're saying, but that's the whole point of her arc in Nightfall. Vriska before her death told John that she didn't want to be in the spotlight anymore and wanted to try and be a good person. In Nightfall this is exactly what she's trying to do, and you can tell she's struggling with it. And a few of her dreams keep reminding her of the terrible deeds she used to do and so are a few of the characters (Karkat). It's not like she can really cause any destruction on earth anyway since there's nothing to destroy except for the villains, which she already tried to destroy. (Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. This was just what I personally interpreted from Nightfall and what it was trying to convey from Vriska)
Also just because Hussie wanted gay relationships in his comic and wanted to be more progressive doesn't mean that he's now gay, and it's really rude to question someone's sexuality over something like that (I'm pretty sure Rachel is Andrew's girlfriend). To be honest I honestly don't care about the comic having all homosexual pairings. What I'm annoyed about is the fact that characters literally got rammed together and were forced to be a pairing just because they're the same sex even though they have far better chemistry and build up with other characters, but since said really good chemistry meant a hetero ship it couldn't happen. It's just as bad as forced hetero relationships happening even though the characters have better chemistry with someone of the same sex, which I know has happened a lot in both western media and general anime.
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Post by supercool993 on Jan 4, 2017 20:17:49 GMT
You sir have created something wonderful.
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Jan 5, 2017 0:24:15 GMT
That song is really good! Keep up the good work
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Post by JxV16 on Jan 9, 2017 6:22:57 GMT
I think I'm one of the few who realized that the animation of nightfall 2.0 was updated, now the beginning has color, and a new scene well animated. I know that neon wants to see us on the train of hype, to my misfortune I already enter. Now I expect the upd8 of nightfall, his retcon, and now the 2.0, upload as long as they can to the train 0u0
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Post by godlessauspistice on Jan 9, 2017 20:36:33 GMT
Neon has improved in her art style, and I see that she is using line art to make her Nightfall 2.0 art look different from her Homestuck art that looks like a detailed version of Hussie's work.
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Post by LetsTussleBoiz on Jan 10, 2017 2:21:38 GMT
Neon has improved in her art style, and I see that she is using line art to make her Nightfall 2.0 art look different from her Homestuck art that looks like a detailed version of Hussie's work. It also makes it harder for me to help :V (Half joke, I love how she's drawing Nightfall 2.0, and I'm practicing drawing some in betweens so I can help Neon wherever she needs it) But yea what are everyone's THOUGHTS on Nightfall 2.0? Would there be anything you want specifically IN Nightfall 2.0? Something you really liked in Nightfall, something you thought Nightfall needed, etc.
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Post by JxV16 on Jan 10, 2017 2:31:05 GMT
Neon has improved in her art style, and I see that she is using line art to make her Nightfall 2.0 art look different from her Homestuck art that looks like a detailed version of Hussie's work. It also makes it harder for me to help :V (Half joke, I love how she's drawing Nightfall 2.0, and I'm practicing drawing some in betweens so I can help Neon wherever she needs it) But yea what are everyone's THOUGHTS on Nightfall 2.0? Would there be anything you want specifically IN Nightfall 2.0? Something you really liked in Nightfall, something you thought Nightfall needed, etc. mmm... love? action? love among the new protagonists? depth in the dialogues?... i said love?...
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Post by kankri on Jan 11, 2017 10:58:44 GMT
I give up My Vriska answer was nulled for two times by power fails and consisted of weird character development of the most developed Homestuck character, and now it's nonsense because current Nightfall can be dropped out at any moment. (And, still, I'm probably too dumb to understand many points) It's not a song: there is no one singing; and it lacks instruments. When finished, it could be really nice, but now Cool and New ANNOUNCEMANT is more interesting. (And CANWC is not beautiful art) I want to wish Nightfall 2.0 a good ending. Homestuck has a horrible one, and original Nightfall, I suppose, would not have any. Currently 2.0 is an attractive idea, but where's the guarantee it would not become as boring to its creators as HS or NF?
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Jan 15, 2017 0:00:05 GMT
It also makes it harder for me to help :V (Half joke, I love how she's drawing Nightfall 2.0, and I'm practicing drawing some in betweens so I can help Neon wherever she needs it) But yea what are everyone's THOUGHTS on Nightfall 2.0? Would there be anything you want specifically IN Nightfall 2.0? Something you really liked in Nightfall, something you thought Nightfall needed, etc. mmm... love? action? love among the new protagonists? depth in the dialogues?... i said love?... I'm interested to see Kate and Gary's character arcs in Nightfall 2.0, if they're in this. I remember Neon mentioning something about those two having a good backstory and general character arcs but she couldn't put them in because of Nightfall being a John/Vriska centered comic. So I look forward to that. Also, I know this is a stupid one, but I'm generally confused on the gender of the character who's chained up in the animation (or lack of gender). I thought they were a girl at first, but the character traits that Neon draws on her female characters aren't on them (like larger eyelashes), so I got confused. xD
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Post by miiano on Jan 26, 2017 4:55:57 GMT
love you Attachments:
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Post by miiano on Jan 26, 2017 5:00:14 GMT
I have been reading this until 4 in the morning, d a v e b l o c k
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Post by HypergressiveAgent on Jan 26, 2017 20:06:10 GMT
wheres update. did Neon actually abandon nightfall or is this still on hiatus. i need some details
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Post by JxV16 on Jan 27, 2017 2:32:49 GMT
Just out of curiosity, Neon and Havoc are working on a new S? If so, I hope it's epic as Dream was.
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Post by miiano on Jan 27, 2017 3:10:46 GMT
I need more ship material
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Post by JxV16 on Jan 27, 2017 3:14:17 GMT
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Post by LetsTussleBoiz on Jan 27, 2017 4:47:31 GMT
Just out of curiosity, Neon and Havoc are working on a new S? If so, I hope it's epic as Dream was. Neon is working on a flash. I just happen to have like 40 different versions in my inbox that I critique for her. And the flash isn't even related to Nightfall, it's Nightfall 2.0. And in my opinion it's way better than Dream.
I just wanna lay down that I don't do as much y'all seem to credit me for. I'm just a friend helping out wherever I can. It bothers me a lil to get any credit. All of it should go to Neon. Don't mean to hate on y'all for the nice words, but just wanted to lay that down.
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Post by TheNeonWerewolf on Jan 27, 2017 5:41:19 GMT
Hey guys. Sorry for the lack of communication lately. Life has been pretty hectic lately. To clear things up, I think at this point I am unable to continue Nightfall. Due to a number of things, including personal issues, lack of time, lack of interest in Homestuck, it is just not a project that I am able to dedicate my focus too anymore. It brings me no joy to tell you this. I still have a great deal of attachment to Nightfall, had the whole story planned out. The crowning moment of the story was something I was really proud of, and I'm sad that it will never be shared in a completed format. I do however plan to release an outline and description of the rest of the events of the story. I don't want to leave you guys hanging. I will also release the 2 unfinished flashes. Hell, why don't I show you all one of them now. It is the story of what happened in Future Dave's doomed timeline. This flash has been in the works for like 3 years, and I'd been poking at it here and there. I may still finish it at some point. We'll see. dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76929498/Flashes/DaveVriskflash.swfAlso some slightly related bad news. Dropbox will no longer be able to host images in March. So that link, including the entirety of Nightfall will be unviewable. Hell a large portion of MSPFA adventures will be screwed over. What do D': But yeah. I'm going to type up an outline of the rest of Nightfall as it was planned and share it with everybody at some point. Thank you to everyone who has read Nightfall. I had a blast working on it, and I learned so much along the way. I made so many friends I otherwise wouldn't have made, and I discovered a passion for storytelling, something that I will continue to pursue in the future. Thank you all so much for your support.
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Post by JxV16 on Jan 27, 2017 6:19:52 GMT
Hey guys. Sorry for the lack of communication lately. Life has been pretty hectic lately. To clear things up, I think at this point I am unable to continue Nightfall. Due to a number of things, including personal issues, lack of time, lack of interest in Homestuck, it is just not a project that I am able to dedicate my focus too anymore. It brings me no joy to tell you this. I still have a great deal of attachment to Nightfall, had the whole story planned out. The crowning moment of the story was something I was really proud of, and I'm sad that it will never be shared in a completed format. I do however plan to release an outline and description of the rest of the events of the story. I don't want to leave you guys hanging. I will also release the 2 unfinished flashes. Hell, why don't I show you all one of them now. It is the story of what happened in Future Dave's doomed timeline. This flash has been in the works for like 3 years, and I'd been poking at it here and there. I may still finish it at some point. We'll see. dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/76929498/Flashes/DaveVriskflash.swfAlso some slightly related bad news. Dropbox will no longer be able to host images in March. So that link, including the entirety of Nightfall will be unviewable. Hell a large portion of MSPFA adventures will be screwed over. What do D': But yeah. I'm going to type up an outline of the rest of Nightfall as it was planned and share it with everybody at some point. Thank you to everyone who has read Nightfall. I had a blast working on it, and I learned so much along the way. I made so many friends I otherwise wouldn't have made, and I discovered a passion for storytelling, something that I will continue to pursue in the future. Thank you all so much for your support. No problem I guess the day is here, I understand that you have personal problems and that. I guess after much Nightfall it will end from day to night. I hope version 2.0 can exploit the potential of the original. Thanks Neon. Thanks Havoc.
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