inspiredsimji
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Post by inspiredsimji on Sept 18, 2016 6:48:30 GMT
I actually loved Acts 1-4. It's kind of elitist to assume you're unique for thinking you were one of the few people who liked them. I started reading just after Cascade, which, unbeknownst to me at the time, was the beginning of the end in terms of overall quality. It's not being elitist, it's sort of the truth. 1% of the fandom is still a shit ton, you know that, right? Just that you're the first person I've met who actually likes the first three acts, How many people have you met? I'd estimate at least half of Homestuck's readers enjoyed the first acts. At least as many as those who didn't like the ending.
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Post by TrickleJest on Sept 18, 2016 7:01:12 GMT
It's not being elitist, it's sort of the truth. 1% of the fandom is still a shit ton, you know that, right? Just that you're the first person I've met who actually likes the first three acts, How many people have you met? I'd estimate at least half of Homestuck's readers enjoyed the first acts. At least as many as those who didn't like the ending. Haha, I don't know who you met, but that definitely wasn't the case for me. I can tell you as a fact that less that 50% enjoy it.
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Post by sillyConformist on Sept 18, 2016 14:44:02 GMT
I know that I enjoyed the first five acts a lot more than act 6. The early parts always seem fun to reread through, but then the story starts to feel like a chore to read through starting from when Doc Scratch starts narrating.
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Post by jacquerel on Sept 18, 2016 16:41:12 GMT
The Intermission (starring Spades Slick and The Felt) was actually the best part of Homestuck
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Post by TrickleJest on Sept 18, 2016 17:11:54 GMT
My favorite part was actually the first few acts, but I was a big fan of the Intermission too because of the insanity. I just hoped it could last longer, if Hussie ever makes a sequel to Problem Sleuth, he should include the Midnight Crew, too.
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quixoticTokki
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Post by quixoticTokki on Sept 18, 2016 17:25:25 GMT
The first couple acts are comedy gold. The only reason I think people say they don't like them, is because that's when a lot of people quit after finding it "too boring." But I'd venture to say that actual Homestucks who read the whole damn thing must have at least SOMEWHAT enjoyed the beginning, otherwise they wouldn't have made it as far as they did.
I will admit I was one of those people that skipped the Intermission on my first read through, though. But only because it didn't seem relevant to anything else that was happening at the time, and I was anxious to get back to the main plot, lol.
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Post by TrickleJest on Sept 18, 2016 17:28:56 GMT
The first couple acts are comedy gold. The only reason I think people say they don't like them, is because that's when a lot of people quit after finding it "too boring." But I'd venture to say that actual Homestucks who read the whole damn thing must have at least SOMEWHAT enjoyed the beginning, otherwise they wouldn't have made it as far as they did. I will admit I was one of those people that skipped the Intermission on my first read through, though. But only because it didn't seem relevant to anything else that was happening at the time, and I was anxious to get back to the main plot, lol. Me too, but then I realized that I skipped some real gold. It's weird to think that the first three acts were made mostly by fans (the commands) and I think Hussie did that great, but once he switched to only doing him it wasn't that good. I'm not blaming him, though. I think PS is funnier than HS but HS is definitely better.
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Post by Arashi500 on Sept 19, 2016 7:09:09 GMT
Count me as one of those who liked just about all of Homestuck. But no one is exactly wrong for feeling however they do about it. The comic underwent a wide variety of changes over it's lifespan, and each of those periods is going to have corresponding pros and cons that will work for some folks and won't work for others. It's not at all unreasonable that someone who got hooked on early content would fall out with later content, or that someone who joined for the later content would want to skip the parts they don't find compelling. Those who were in it for the early game-y stuff like the alchemization and kernelsprites would be totally justified if the later focus on the more abstract concepts like godteirs and teen drama turned them off, or vice versa.
Also, on topic, I have like 3 friends who are Homestucks after I introduced them to it, but that's about it. I always got the feeling I was more into it than they ever were, though.
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Post by SpottedBlades on Sept 19, 2016 9:30:32 GMT
I admit I got in for the trolls, but I'm not the kind to skip parts just because they don't seem relevant. The intermission was actually fun. But I did speedread a lot and ended up not understanding anything when Cascade came about. I had to do it again, much slower this time, and taking time to explore everywhere in the flash games to better understand dynamics between characters.
As you may not know, Homestuck is quite unknown in France, and even through there's a translation available I didn't succeed in making any of my friends interested (I even did a school presentation on it). Or if they did, they never got past the first act.
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The One Guy
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Post by The One Guy on Sept 19, 2016 15:06:09 GMT
I really like Acts 1-3, think the intermission is kind of "meh," really like Act 4 and Act 5 Act 1, absolutely love Act 5 Act 2, think Act 6 is okay, and like Act 7.
But back on topic, literally no one I know in person has read Homestuck, and the only ones who even know about it only know because I've mentioned it to them.
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Post by Blizzriel on Sept 19, 2016 15:21:58 GMT
I have some old friends that I could try to reconnect with that might like Homestuck, but I don't really feel like talking to them since we ended our friendship on really bad terms. Plus I feel like they'd be the kind of Homestuck fans that are really into the trolls, which were my least favorite part of Homestuck.
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Post by PsnedE on Sept 21, 2016 13:16:57 GMT
About half of my friends like Homestuck. My favorite part has been Act 5 Act 2, but I really like the feeling the first 4 acts. I liked most of homestuck though. I feel openbound was probably it's weakest point though, it's much to big for it's own good, plus all the alpha trolls except for Araena and Meenah are jokes.
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Post by mementovivere on Sept 21, 2016 14:10:50 GMT
I've got some IRL friends who are into it--the friend who suggested that I read it in the first place, another one of my best friends who ended up getting even more obsessed than me and got a decent tumblr following making fanart, several friends who have AT LEAST read a majority of it (though I think a lot of them fell off the boat during various hiatuses). And, of course, several online friends who I met through the fandom. Plenty more friends who I've tried to get to read Homestuck who just never did, though. Some have started, and liked it well enough, but it's just so long... it was already a daunting read when I got caught up in Act 5, let alone NOW, so I can't say I blame them for losing steam! I'm still trying to get my boyfriend (whose birthday is 4/13!) to read past Act 3, buuuuut he's also in grad school hell so I give him a break
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Post by SpottedBlades on Sept 21, 2016 16:49:13 GMT
I guess the "Let me tell you about Homestuck" meme has its roots somewhere.
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Post by Arashi500 on Sept 21, 2016 22:18:37 GMT
I guess the "Let me tell you about Homestuck" meme has its roots somewhere. It definitely does have it's roots, but I'm afraid it's more from the way obsessive teens tend to act overbearingly about whatever it is they're obsessed with. It's hardly a Homestuck exclusive problem, but it's come to define the fandom, especially at cons and other group gatherings.
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Post by SpottedBlades on Sept 22, 2016 6:21:06 GMT
En même temps, I doubt any fandom today has reached what Homestuck is now known for. People are so desperate to define a fandom to call "new Homestuck" (Superwholock and Steven Universe being their main candidates) that they don't realize it might be 2011 all over again. We wouldn't want that to happen, do we? Still, I wonder why no one has ever attempted a Homestuck-only convention. It might be disastrous, but at least it won't be Dashcon.
...why are you pointing your gun at me?
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Post by TrickleJest on Sept 22, 2016 9:23:56 GMT
I'm just sad that some people run away when they hear the word "Homestuck". My cousin is an Undertale fan, and I introduced it to him, and apparently at some point when I had to go in the bathroom he picked up my iPad and read Problem Sleuth?? Anyways, I lured him in by showing him Homestuck's Megalovania and telling that Toby did music for it, but he still doesn't wanna read it... you know... cause it has over 8k pages??
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Post by Arashi500 on Sept 22, 2016 9:26:09 GMT
En même temps, I doubt any fandom today has reached what Homestuck is now known for. People are so desperate to define a fandom to call "new Homestuck" (Superwholock and Steven Universe being their main candidates) that they don't realize it might be 2011 all over again. We wouldn't want that to happen, do we? Still, I wonder why no one has ever attempted a Homestuck-only convention. It might be disastrous, but at least it won't be Dashcon. ...why are you pointing your gun at me? I dunno, the MLP:FIM and Steven Universe fandoms often seem to have overtaken Homestuck in the race for "Worst Fandom" by a country mile these days, at least from where I'm sitting. Homestuck was always obscure enough that you could reasonably completely filter it out of your media intake if you truly cared to, but I don't think that would've been possible in regards to MLP from 2011-2013 or SU today. I'm just sad that some people run away when they hear the word "Homestuck". My cousin is an Undertale fan, and I introduced it to him, and apparently at some point when I had to go in the bathroom he picked up my iPad and read Problem Sleuth?? Anyways, I lured him in by showing him Homestuck's Megalovania and telling that Toby did music for it, but he still doesn't wanna read it... you know... cause it has over 8k pages?? I wouldn't fault anyone for not reading Homestuck for length alone. 8k+ pages is a pretty damn daunting read for a lot of people.
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Post by SpottedBlades on Sept 22, 2016 13:02:02 GMT
I wonder which has the most pages: Homestuck or the entirety of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure? ... Jjba is currently at 900 chapters for 117 volumes. If we take the completely arbitrary number of 50 pages per chapter (about what i've counted in Jojolion Chapter 51), 50 times 900 is 45.000 pages. If we take for granted that there are about 50 words per page (in the english translation), knowing some will have little to none and some will be dialogue-ey, it makes about 45.000 times 50 which is 2.250.000 words. According to that site, Homestuck is at 8.124 pages for 817.612 words. JJba has more pages that Homestuck. Sorry pals, but i guess you can't deal with a franchise that's been running since the 80s.
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The One Guy
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Post by The One Guy on Sept 22, 2016 13:38:07 GMT
En même temps, I doubt any fandom today has reached what Homestuck is now known for. People are so desperate to define a fandom to call "new Homestuck" (Superwholock and Steven Universe being their main candidates) that they don't realize it might be 2011 all over again. We wouldn't want that to happen, do we? Still, I wonder why no one has ever attempted a Homestuck-only convention. It might be disastrous, but at least it won't be Dashcon. ...why are you pointing your gun at me? I dunno, the MLP:FIM and Steven Universe fandoms often seem to have overtaken Homestuck in the race for "Worst Fandom" by a country mile these days, at least from where I'm sitting. Homestuck was always obscure enough that you could reasonably completely filter it out of your media intake if you truly cared to, but I don't think that would've been possible in regards to MLP from 2011-2013 or SU today. Don't forget the Sonic fandom. Maybe not as much today as what it used to be, but it was the original and perhaps biggest "bad fandom." Also there's the PewDiePie fandom and Five Nights at Freddy's/Creepypasta fans. Also you can't forget the more "mainstream" fandoms: Twilight, Justin Bieber, Call of Duty, to an extent Harry Potter... There are a lot of fandoms with bad reputations, really. The internet tends to consider MLP and Sonic fans to be the worst, though.
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Post by TrickleJest on Sept 22, 2016 13:50:26 GMT
I was actually a pretty big gamer when I was really small, I played more games than I do know. Now I occasionally play Game Dev Tycoon every three months or so and sometimes Minecraft when my cousin is bored (also once in three months). I also play flash games from time to time but not much. When I was a kid I used to play Sacred (basically a Diablo rip-off) and I played a fuck ton of flash games. I was actually good at games for my age, I played them since kindergarten believe it or not. Now I just suck. It's sort of like getting a job, you can't get a job without experience and you can't get experience without a job. Same for me, can't play games because I suck and can't get better because I suck too much at games.
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Post by vividObscurity on Oct 10, 2016 8:08:08 GMT
I only have about one friend who is still a Homestuck, both me and said friend have actually been doing a read through of it. (Still not finished with the whole comic yet, but we're on act 6!) In the past, I tried to get two other friends into it. One of them liked it, but then out of the blue changed her mind on wanting to finish it period. Another friend I have tried to get into it, she got past act one and said she couldn't invest herself in it, I think the sylladex and weird lingo was off putting to her or too complex to the point she couldn't understand. The person who is responsible for getting me into Homestuck hasn't finished it or stopped liking it, I was still in high school when she suggested it to me.
So yeah, just one friend.
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NothingIsOkay75
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Post by NothingIsOkay75 on Oct 10, 2016 14:51:30 GMT
I've been trying hard for the last two years now, but to almost no results.
I'm in a group of about 5 friends (Including me) and i've really only gotten one of those friends into homestuck. At least there's like 2 other people in my class who already liked it, so i might have gotten lucky.
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Post by gutza1 on Oct 14, 2016 23:08:49 GMT
I'm just sad that some people run away when they hear the word "Homestuck". [snip] That's why Transhelion will only say it's a "fancomic," and won't explicitly state its connection to Homestuck, so people who know that Homestuck has a bad reputation but don't actually know anything about the characters will read it without running away. Basically I'm tricking the more ignorant Homestuck-averse people into reading something Homestuck related.
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Post by aquilus3 on Oct 14, 2016 23:12:52 GMT
Uh no. Generally a lot of people tend to stay away from it because of the rep. And I agree, the fandom can be straight up cancer at times. But I do have a least a few and they're the cooler ones and like it as a webcomic and nothing more. Same with me, wouldn't do homestuck cosplay or talk about it on the level of some. Really even make references. And my friend has quoted me to be "A living meme".
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