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Post by InternallyLactiad on Oct 22, 2016 16:17:49 GMT
Homestuck can get pretty confusing at times, so this thread is for the normies who don't understand how layered Homestuck is.
We can discuss how Vriska is secretly Jesus or how trickster Jane is secretly Jesus or even how Dave has crippling depression... (and is also Jesus). All that fun stuff!
(This is basically a thread for any deep meanings or allegories you may have found in HS).
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Post by crusadercaster on Oct 22, 2016 17:02:59 GMT
i thought karkat was the Jesus allegory character, seeing how is a descendant/reincarnation of what is basically troll Jesus.
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 22, 2016 17:35:11 GMT
i thought karkat was the Jesus allegory character, seeing how is a descendant/reincarnation of what is basically troll Jesus. Alpha Kankri (aka Kankri in Karkat's universe, aka the Sufferer) is Jesus, and Karkat is the second coming of Jesus as said in the Bible. I'm not Christian and I never was, I just know a lot about Christianity because of TBoI. Also, something that I didn't notice but someone else did, but I forgot who did in the first place: John retrieved his "arms" (hands) from "chest" (magic storage unit) in the first couple pages, and Davesprite retrieved his "arms" (aka his sword) from "chest" (his chest area of his body) because his sword is lodged in his chest. This is honestly so fucking cool. |
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Post by grandfathermushroom on Oct 22, 2016 18:20:14 GMT
All the characters are definetly jews.
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 22, 2016 18:29:24 GMT
All the characters are definetly jews. I know this is sarcasm, but here's some trivia for y'all: the characters are aracial, meaning that you can apply any race to them in your fanon. One mistake that noobs make with a game that Homestuck musician Toby Fox made (Undertale) is saying that the characters Chara and Frisk are gender-neutral, when in fact they are agender, meaning that you can apply any gender to them in your fanon, so technically believing that Frisk is male is not wrong. Please learn the difference. This is less of a "you're triggering me!!!!1!!" whiny tumblr problem and more of a "pls stop being triggered by this" sort of problem. |
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 22, 2016 18:31:22 GMT
Also, sorry for doubling, but this just can't wait in my opinion.
This stupid flipping tumblr blog was bitching about how Hussie sucks because he quote unqoute gave tavros legs and that was ableist, and how saying dumb should be banned cause it's part of "dumb and deaf" which is also ableist. Why do these people exist?!
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Post by InternallyLactiad on Oct 22, 2016 19:40:00 GMT
i thought karkat was the Jesus allegory character, seeing how is a descendant/reincarnation of what is basically troll Jesus. Also, something that I didn't notice but someone else did, but I forgot who did in the first place: John retrieved his "arms" (hands) from "chest" (magic storage unit) in the first couple pages, and Davesprite retrieved his "arms" (aka his sword) from "chest" (his chest area of his body) because his sword is lodged in his chest. This is honestly so fucking cool. Woah! I didn't notice that. |
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Post by obsidalicious on Oct 22, 2016 19:57:35 GMT
Deep hidden allegories?
Well, back on the old forum, I put forth the idea that the whole story is secretly a Dental Hygiene PSA.
It started out with people talking about the interpretations of the Aspect Symbols, and I pointed out that the Breath symbol, donned by our protagonist, could double as a dollop of toothpaste alongside the traditional Gust of Wind image. Combine that with the fact that John's weapon of choice is the hammer, who's shape is vaguely reminiscent of a toothbrush.
On top of that, the Cracks Lord English was laying down in the F.R. are analogies to the cracks and holes that develop in poorly looked after teeth. Of course, let's not forget the diet of the antagonist doing this: Nothing but meat and candy, which is the sort of diet that leads to bad dental hygiene.
But that's not to say that candy is bad of course: Spades Slick also eats candy, but he eats it in moderate amounts and as a result is more of a good guy that a bad guy, showing us that Dental Hygiene isn't hard and we can still enjoy sweet foods.
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Post by InternallyLactiad on Oct 22, 2016 20:07:57 GMT
Deep hidden allegories? Well, back on the old forum, I put forth the idea that the whole story is secretly a Dental Hygiene PSA. It started out with people talking about the interpretations of the Aspect Symbols, and I pointed out that the Breath symbol, donned by our protagonist, could double as a dollop of toothpaste alongside the traditional Gust of Wind image. Combine that with the fact that John's weapon of choice is the hammer, who's shape is vaguely reminiscent of a toothbrush. On top of that, the Cracks Lord English was laying down in the F.R. are analogies to the cracks and holes that develop in poorly looked after teeth. Of course, let's not forget the diet of the antagonist doing this: Nothing but meat and candy, which is the sort of diet that leads to bad dental hygiene. But that's not to say that candy is bad of course: Spades Slick also eats candy, but he eats it in moderate amounts and as a result is more of a good guy that a bad guy, showing us that Dental Hygiene isn't hard and we can still enjoy sweet foods. Stupid theory. Needs more Jesus. |
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Post by obsidalicious on Oct 22, 2016 20:13:45 GMT
Deep hidden allegories? Well, back on the old forum, I put forth the idea that the whole story is secretly a Dental Hygiene PSA. It started out with people talking about the interpretations of the Aspect Symbols, and I pointed out that the Breath symbol, donned by our protagonist, could double as a dollop of toothpaste alongside the traditional Gust of Wind image. Combine that with the fact that John's weapon of choice is the hammer, who's shape is vaguely reminiscent of a toothbrush. On top of that, the Cracks Lord English was laying down in the F.R. are analogies to the cracks and holes that develop in poorly looked after teeth. Of course, let's not forget the diet of the antagonist doing this: Nothing but meat and candy, which is the sort of diet that leads to bad dental hygiene. But that's not to say that candy is bad of course: Spades Slick also eats candy, but he eats it in moderate amounts and as a result is more of a good guy that a bad guy, showing us that Dental Hygiene isn't hard and we can still enjoy sweet foods. Stupid theory. Needs more Jesus. Well, Karkat is obviously a Jesus allegory, and he stood next to John in the ending: (Dental) Cleanliness is next to Godliness. |
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 22, 2016 20:21:38 GMT
Homestuck can get pretty confusing at times, so this thread is for the normies who don't understand how layered Homestuck is. We can discuss how Vriska is secretly Jesus or how trickster Jane is secretly Jesus or even how Dave has crippling depression... (and is also Jesus). All that fun stuff!
(This is basically a thread for any deep meanings or allegories you may have found in HS). Equius ==> Heir of Void. Air of Void. Void of Air. Equius dies by suffocation. John ==> Heir of Breath. Air of Breath. Breath of Air. John does the windy thing. They're practically the opposite. |
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Post by imglasses on Oct 23, 2016 4:54:39 GMT
I do think Homestuck builds a more thorough and macroscopic meaning of life, the universe, and everything than just about any other literary work I've seen. But I also think almost none of it is true in real life. One mistake that noobs make with a game that Homestuck musician Toby Fox made (Undertale) is saying that the characters Chara and Frisk are gender-neutral, when in fact they are agender, meaning that you can apply any gender to them in your fanon, so technically believing that Frisk is male is not wrong. Please learn the difference. This is less of a "you're triggering me!!!!1!!" whiny tumblr problem and more of a "pls stop being triggered by this" sort of problem. I'm agender. The term doesn't mean that a person's gender is whatever people want it to be, it means that the person doesn't have a gender at all. That said, it's possible that Toby intended for us to project our own gender onto Frisk. But I don't think either of us know what Toby's intention was. All the characters are definetly jews. I think all of the characters are probably atheist. At least a few have been hinted to be atheist (especially John), and I think it's partly a projection of Hussie's own views onto the characters. But, I mean, all of these people know that they and their universe were created by mechanisms of Sburb. Doesn't that literally disprove Judaism and almost every other human religion? I suppose the Sufferer was a Jesus-like figure, but I don't think it was implied that anyone actually believed he was sent to Alternia by a deity or anything. They just believed in his message. |
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 23, 2016 5:03:54 GMT
I do think Homestuck builds a more thorough and macroscopic meaning of life, the universe, and everything than just about any other literary work I've seen. But I also think almost none of it is true in real life. One mistake that noobs make with a game that Homestuck musician Toby Fox made (Undertale) is saying that the characters Chara and Frisk are gender-neutral, when in fact they are agender, meaning that you can apply any gender to them in your fanon, so technically believing that Frisk is male is not wrong. Please learn the difference. This is less of a "you're triggering me!!!!1!!" whiny tumblr problem and more of a "pls stop being triggered by this" sort of problem. I'm agender. The term doesn't mean that a person's gender is whatever people want it to be, it means that the person doesn't have a gender at all. That said, it's possible that Toby intended for us to project our own gender onto Frisk. But I don't think either of us know what Toby's intention was. All the characters are definetly jews. I think all of the characters are probably atheist. At least a few have been hinted to be atheist (especially John), and I think it's partly a projection of Hussie's own views onto the characters. But, I mean, all of these people know that they and their universe were created by mechanisms of Sburb. Doesn't that literally disprove Judaism and almost every other human religion? I suppose the Sufferer was a Jesus-like figure, but I don't think it was implied that anyone actually believed he was sent to Alternia by a deity or anything. They just believed in his message. Sorry if I offended you, that wasn't my goal, but I thought that I've heard Toby say somewhere that we have to choose their gender cause they were "agender", but looks like I was misinformed by a fan, since agender doesn't even mean that. I'm really sorry and I didn't know, thanks for actually telling me. Also, grandfather was most definitely trolling. ALSO, are you sure Hussie is atheist? |
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Post by obsidalicious on Oct 23, 2016 5:24:07 GMT
I think all of the characters are probably atheist. At least a few have been hinted to be atheist (especially John), and I think it's partly a projection of Hussie's own views onto the characters. But, I mean, all of these people know that they and their universe were created by mechanisms of Sburb. Doesn't that literally disprove Judaism and almost every other human religion? If I may take a mild jab at (a subset of) religious folk; they aren't typically known for acknowledging all the nuances of reality and making sure their beliefs reflect the facts. But I do agree that all the characters are atheistic simply because we didn't see anyone surprised or perturbed by the Sburban cycle, suggesting that they didn't already have any treasured preconceptions of Creation. Also Re: Chara/Frisk Gender Status. What is the correct term, if any, for what Trickle is describing if not Agender? Gender-irrelevant? EDIT: ALSO, are you sure Hussie is atheist? : "I also do not have a religion" |
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 23, 2016 5:40:38 GMT
I think all of the characters are probably atheist. At least a few have been hinted to be atheist (especially John), and I think it's partly a projection of Hussie's own views onto the characters. But, I mean, all of these people know that they and their universe were created by mechanisms of Sburb. Doesn't that literally disprove Judaism and almost every other human religion? If I may take a mild jab at (a subset of) religious folk; they aren't typically known for acknowledging all the nuances of reality and making sure their beliefs reflect the facts. But I do agree that all the characters are atheistic simply because we didn't see anyone surprised or perturbed by the Sburban cycle, suggesting that they didn't already have any treasured preconceptions of Creation. Also Re: Chara/Frisk Gender Status. What is the correct term, if any, for what Trickle is describing if not Agender? Gender-irrelevant? EDIT: ALSO, are you sure Hussie is atheist? : "I also do not have a religion" Makes me glad that Hussie has the same... uh... not-a-religion as me? Is there any better way to say it? Can anyone tell me how to even say that? Do I use the word "belief"? |
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Post by imglasses on Oct 23, 2016 5:41:50 GMT
I do think Homestuck builds a more thorough and macroscopic meaning of life, the universe, and everything than just about any other literary work I've seen. But I also think almost none of it is true in real life. I'm agender. The term doesn't mean that a person's gender is whatever people want it to be, it means that the person doesn't have a gender at all. That said, it's possible that Toby intended for us to project our own gender onto Frisk. But I don't think either of us know what Toby's intention was. I think all of the characters are probably atheist. At least a few have been hinted to be atheist (especially John), and I think it's partly a projection of Hussie's own views onto the characters. But, I mean, all of these people know that they and their universe were created by mechanisms of Sburb. Doesn't that literally disprove Judaism and almost every other human religion? I suppose the Sufferer was a Jesus-like figure, but I don't think it was implied that anyone actually believed he was sent to Alternia by a deity or anything. They just believed in his message. Sorry if I offended you, that wasn't my goal, but I thought that I've heard Toby say somewhere that we have to choose their gender cause they were "agender", but looks like I was misinformed by a fan, since agender doesn't even mean that. I'm really sorry and I didn't know, thanks for actually telling me. Also, grandfather was most definitely trolling. ALSO, are you sure Hussie is atheist? It's okay, thanks for responding maturely. I don't know if Toby has said anything about Frisk's gender, but when I looked it up it seemed like there was no canon or word-of-god answer, so it's pretty much just up to interpretation. And I didn't know if Hussie was atheist, I always just kind of assumed he was because he makes fun of religion and wrote a comic all about an alternative explanation to the creation of our universe that doesn't involve religion. But actually, I just looked it up on Hussie's old Formspring, and it seems like he is atheist:  (nevermind, obsidalicious beat me to it) I think all of the characters are probably atheist. At least a few have been hinted to be atheist (especially John), and I think it's partly a projection of Hussie's own views onto the characters. But, I mean, all of these people know that they and their universe were created by mechanisms of Sburb. Doesn't that literally disprove Judaism and almost every other human religion? If I may take a mild jab at (a subset of) religious folk; they aren't typically known for acknowledging all the nuances of reality and making sure their beliefs reflect the facts. But I do agree that all the characters are atheistic simply because we didn't see anyone surprised or perturbed by the Sburban cycle, suggesting that they didn't already have any treasured preconceptions of Creation. Also Re: Chara/Frisk Gender Status. What is the correct term, if any, for what Trickle is describing if not Agender? Gender-irrelevant? Yeah, I'm sure a lot of religious people would just change their views to say that God created Paradox Space in its entirety. Even though most sacred religious texts specifically say God created our individual universe and the life in it (both claims that Sburb disproves). But, you know, it's just mistranslations and symbolism. And I don't think there is a word for "has no objective gender identity but the observer can choose whichever one they desire". Hussie came up with "aracial", and the obvious extension to this would be "agender", but that just happens to be a word that's already taken. "Up to interpretation" is probably the simplest way to describe it. |
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 23, 2016 6:07:21 GMT
Sorry if I offended you, that wasn't my goal, but I thought that I've heard Toby say somewhere that we have to choose their gender cause they were "agender", but looks like I was misinformed by a fan, since agender doesn't even mean that. I'm really sorry and I didn't know, thanks for actually telling me. Also, grandfather was most definitely trolling. ALSO, are you sure Hussie is atheist? It's okay, thanks for responding maturely. I don't know if Toby has said anything about Frisk's gender, but when I looked it up it seemed like there was no canon or word-of-god answer, so it's pretty much just up to interpretation. And I didn't know if Hussie was atheist, I always just kind of assumed he was because he makes fun of religion and wrote a comic all about an alternative explanation to the creation of our universe that doesn't involve religion. But actually, I just looked it up on Hussie's old Formspring, and it seems like he is atheist: (nevermind, obsidalicious beat me to it) If I may take a mild jab at (a subset of) religious folk; they aren't typically known for acknowledging all the nuances of reality and making sure their beliefs reflect the facts. But I do agree that all the characters are atheistic simply because we didn't see anyone surprised or perturbed by the Sburban cycle, suggesting that they didn't already have any treasured preconceptions of Creation. Also Re: Chara/Frisk Gender Status. What is the correct term, if any, for what Trickle is describing if not Agender? Gender-irrelevant? Yeah, I'm sure a lot of religious people would just change their views to say that God created Paradox Space in its entirety. Even though most sacred religious texts specifically say God created our individual universe and the life in it (both claims that Sburb disproves). But, you know, it's just mistranslations and symbolism. And I don't think there is a word for "has no objective gender identity but the observer can choose whichever one they desire". Hussie came up with "aracial", and the obvious extension to this would be "agender", but that just happens to be a word that's already taken. "Up to interpretation" is probably the simplest way to describe it. I honestly don't really understand religion all that well. I mean, some religious lore can be interesting to read a bit, but the whole gist of it just... doesn't come together, ya know? To many holes to fill out. The big bang is practically proven, yet the Bible (and other books) never mention it. Yet again, if this "Moses" really exists, and isn't delusional, he wrote the Bible really well. I mean, he speaks of a second coming, but he never clarifies when it will happen, meaning that Christians will always believe in it until the end of time, which we don't know when it will happen, because the author of the Bible states that the second coming may be in any given moment, so it always gives them hope that he will return. I am quite fond of this part myself, this was clever writing on the author's part, but I still don't get how with all of the modern sciences we have people still believe the primitive things in the Bible. Perhaps I'm treating it as an actual story or a book, which I shouldn't be doing, but religion just does not make sense to me at all. Oddly enough, I've been an atheist ever since I was ten, and this isn't a joke. Religion never made sense to me, and once I actually gained a voice and an opinion (which happen when I was ten for some reason) I declared myself an atheist. I actually deeply loathe religion, I've been made fun in class a lot because of being an atheist. I was called a "mason", "satanist" hell even "part of the Illuminati", no joke. |
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Post by imglasses on Oct 23, 2016 6:35:00 GMT
I honestly don't really understand religion all that well. I mean, some religious lore can be interesting to read a bit, but the whole gist of it just... doesn't come together, ya know? To many holes to fill out. The big bang is practically proven, yet the Bible (and other books) never mention it. Yet again, if this "Moses" really exists, and isn't delusional, he wrote the Bible really well. I mean, he speaks of a second coming, but he never clarifies when it will happen, meaning that Christians will always believe in it until the end of time, which we don't know when it will happen, because the author of the Bible states that the second coming may be in any given moment, so it always gives them hope that he will return. I am quite fond of this part myself, this was clever writing on the author's part, but I still don't get how with all of the modern sciences we have people still believe the primitive things in the Bible. Perhaps I'm treating it as an actual story or a book, which I shouldn't be doing, but religion just does not make sense to me at all. Oddly enough, I've been an atheist ever since I was ten, and this isn't a joke. Religion never made sense to me, and once I actually gained a voice and an opinion (which happen when I was ten for some reason) I declared myself an atheist. I actually deeply loathe religion, I've been made fun in class a lot because of being an atheist. I was called a "mason", "satanist" hell even "part of the Illuminati", no joke. I guess I understand why religion is still around. It makes people feel good. They'd rather feel like they have an absolute purpose for existing, and to think that their consciousness will persist after death, and that they'll see their loved ones after they die, etc. even if those things almost definitely aren't true. And I suppose I can sympathize with that, because I'd probably happier if I thought those things were true (and there's lots of other, less positive reasons people can be religious, but, well, I don't want to accidentally start a fight here). But I just personally don't think I could bring myself to believe in something with that much evidence against it. But, to get back on topic, that's a reason I really like Homestuck. A common argument for religion is "the universe must have a creator, so God exists", but Homestuck argues against this by constructing a plot and setting of epic scale that show that there are other ways to explain universe creation. |
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Post by melonlord on Oct 23, 2016 6:52:12 GMT
I honestly don't really understand religion all that well. I mean, some religious lore can be interesting to read a bit, but the whole gist of it just... doesn't come together, ya know? To many holes to fill out. The big bang is practically proven, yet the Bible (and other books) never mention it. Yet again, if this "Moses" really exists, and isn't delusional, he wrote the Bible really well. I mean, he speaks of a second coming, but he never clarifies when it will happen, meaning that Christians will always believe in it until the end of time, which we don't know when it will happen, because the author of the Bible states that the second coming may be in any given moment, so it always gives them hope that he will return. I am quite fond of this part myself, this was clever writing on the author's part, but I still don't get how with all of the modern sciences we have people still believe the primitive things in the Bible. Perhaps I'm treating it as an actual story or a book, which I shouldn't be doing, but religion just does not make sense to me at all. Oddly enough, I've been an atheist ever since I was ten, and this isn't a joke. Religion never made sense to me, and once I actually gained a voice and an opinion (which happen when I was ten for some reason) I declared myself an atheist. I actually deeply loathe religion, I've been made fun in class a lot because of being an atheist. I was called a "mason", "satanist" hell even "part of the Illuminati", no joke. Yeah, the bible isn't really a cohesive thing so much as a pastiche of myths, allegories, heavily fantasized history, moral laws, something like folk tales, correspondences and old records. All shoved through countless translations, edits, retranslations and censorships. That all makes it quite an interesting document to read, but a complete clusterfuck to follow as a cohesive story or a "literal" (however one would define that) moral guide. Seguing back into homestuck, there's kind of a neat tie-in between the angels and biblical lore. Lucifer, the fallen angel who tempts adam and eve, appears as a normal serpent; and angels in homestuck are depicted as winged serpent-like creatures. So in a weird way, homestuck's cosmology retroactively accounts for Lucifer's appearance; an angel who's fallen would naturally appear as a serpent without wings, right? And that also makes a connection with Lord English, a wingless cherub who serves as a Satan analogue. It's a vague little connection, but it's just. Neat. And it ties together into the whole snakes=divine/godly thing, with the denizens and cherubs and the symbol of the ouroboros. |
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Post by renegadeshroom on Oct 23, 2016 6:58:23 GMT
re: A term for a character who's gender is up to interpretation, I'm also agender, and gender neutral seems as good a term as any. After all, people talking about gender neutral bathrooms -- for example -- aren't referring to bathrooms exclusively for nonbinary people, they're referring to bathrooms not restricted by gender.
Also, someone being Jewish isn't simply a matter of their religious beliefs. Jewish people are an ethnoreligious group, so my understanding is that one can be ethnically Jewish while not being a follower of Judaism, and one can be a follower of Judaism without being ethnically Jewish. Therefore, according to the araciality of the Homestuck kids, they could in fact all be Jewish if one were inclined to hold that particular headcanon. :u
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 23, 2016 7:04:35 GMT
This is honestly my favorite thread hahahaha
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 23, 2016 7:09:52 GMT
I honestly don't really understand religion all that well. I mean, some religious lore can be interesting to read a bit, but the whole gist of it just... doesn't come together, ya know? To many holes to fill out. The big bang is practically proven, yet the Bible (and other books) never mention it. Yet again, if this "Moses" really exists, and isn't delusional, he wrote the Bible really well. I mean, he speaks of a second coming, but he never clarifies when it will happen, meaning that Christians will always believe in it until the end of time, which we don't know when it will happen, because the author of the Bible states that the second coming may be in any given moment, so it always gives them hope that he will return. I am quite fond of this part myself, this was clever writing on the author's part, but I still don't get how with all of the modern sciences we have people still believe the primitive things in the Bible. Perhaps I'm treating it as an actual story or a book, which I shouldn't be doing, but religion just does not make sense to me at all. Oddly enough, I've been an atheist ever since I was ten, and this isn't a joke. Religion never made sense to me, and once I actually gained a voice and an opinion (which happen when I was ten for some reason) I declared myself an atheist. I actually deeply loathe religion, I've been made fun in class a lot because of being an atheist. I was called a "mason", "satanist" hell even "part of the Illuminati", no joke. Yeah, the bible isn't really a cohesive thing so much as a pastiche of myths, allegories, heavily fantasized history, moral laws, something like folk tales, correspondences and old records. All shoved through countless translations, edits, retranslations and censorships. That all makes it quite an interesting document to read, but a complete clusterfuck to follow as a cohesive story or a "literal" (however one would define that) moral guide. Seguing back into homestuck, there's kind of a neat tie-in between the angels and biblical lore. Lucifer, the fallen angel who tempts adam and eve, appears as a normal serpent; and angels in homestuck are depicted as winged serpent-like creatures. So in a weird way, homestuck's cosmology retroactively accounts for Lucifer's appearance; an angel who's fallen would naturally appear as a serpent without wings, right? And that also makes a connection with Lord English, a wingless cherub who serves as a Satan analogue. It's a vague little connection, but it's just. Neat. And it ties together into the whole snakes=divine/godly thing, with the denizens and cherubs and the symbol of the ouroboros. On the subject of Homestuckian extra-terrestrial life forms, I was always fond of the buckets gag (trolls view buckets as inappropriate, google troll reproduction), especially when it was reborn in the form of the snakes gag (cherubs view serpentine creatures as inappropriate, google cherub reproduction) but one thing I really would've liked is if Hussie made the trolls or cherubs have penises, condoms, vaginas or something viewed inappropriate to us as a vital part of their everyday life, so our human characters will wince when they see it. For example, snakes are normal animals and buckets are used for cleaning. However, this is different for trolls/cherubs. So for example, a good piece of lore in my opinion would have been since trolls are insect-like life forms, they collect nectar in condom-shaped containers, so when John or anyone else sees it, they have a Karkat-like mental breakdown. Get what Im saying? |
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Post by imglasses on Oct 23, 2016 7:38:07 GMT
On the subject of Homestuckian extra-terrestrial life forms, I was always fond of the buckets gag (trolls view buckets as inappropriate, google troll reproduction), especially when it was reborn in the form of the snakes gag (cherubs view serpentine creatures as inappropriate, google cherub reproduction) but one thing I really would've liked is if Hussie made the trolls or cherubs have penises, condoms, vaginas or something viewed inappropriate to us as a vital part of their everyday life, so our human characters will wince when they see it. For example, snakes are normal animals and buckets are used for cleaning. However, this is different for trolls/cherubs. So for example, a good piece of lore in my opinion would have been since trolls are insect-like life forms, they collect nectar in condom-shaped containers, so when John or anyone else sees it, they have a Karkat-like mental breakdown. Get what Im saying? Do Equius' posters of nude musclebeasts count? Apparently, he didn't draw them himself, they're legitimately considered "fine art" in Alternian culture. And he even creeped out Dave with his erotic musclebeast poetry. Apparently trolls don't think that's weird. There's also polygamy, which is nearly taboo in human society but practically a requirement in troll society. (Dave was unfortunately the victim of this cultural disparity as well) |
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Post by obsidalicious on Oct 23, 2016 7:57:57 GMT
On the subject of Homestuckian extra-terrestrial life forms, I was always fond of the buckets gag (trolls view buckets as inappropriate, google troll reproduction), especially when it was reborn in the form of the snakes gag (cherubs view serpentine creatures as inappropriate, google cherub reproduction) but one thing I really would've liked is if Hussie made the trolls or cherubs have penises, condoms, vaginas or something viewed inappropriate to us as a vital part of their everyday life, so our human characters will wince when they see it. For example, snakes are normal animals and buckets are used for cleaning. However, this is different for trolls/cherubs. So for example, a good piece of lore in my opinion would have been since trolls are insect-like life forms, they collect nectar in condom-shaped containers, so when John or anyone else sees it, they have a Karkat-like mental breakdown. Get what Im saying? I see your point, but I feel that the whole concept was rather unrealistic. I can't see a whole culture, especially not such a Utilitarian one like Alternia, would delegate such a standard fluid vessel shape as 'bucket' to that one specific role, nothing else and place such a taboo against it because of it. I think that A) The Trolls were just being particularly childish about the whole thing, like a human might be about someone eating a hotdog and/or B) It was just a throwaway joke by Hussie that lasted for a bit too long to still count as 'throwaway' and thus people mistook it for serious lore. |
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 23, 2016 8:01:52 GMT
On the subject of Homestuckian extra-terrestrial life forms, I was always fond of the buckets gag (trolls view buckets as inappropriate, google troll reproduction), especially when it was reborn in the form of the snakes gag (cherubs view serpentine creatures as inappropriate, google cherub reproduction) but one thing I really would've liked is if Hussie made the trolls or cherubs have penises, condoms, vaginas or something viewed inappropriate to us as a vital part of their everyday life, so our human characters will wince when they see it. For example, snakes are normal animals and buckets are used for cleaning. However, this is different for trolls/cherubs. So for example, a good piece of lore in my opinion would have been since trolls are insect-like life forms, they collect nectar in condom-shaped containers, so when John or anyone else sees it, they have a Karkat-like mental breakdown. Get what Im saying? I see your point, but I feel that the whole concept was rather unrealistic. I can't see a whole culture, especially not such a Utilitarian one like Alternia, would delegate such a standard fluid vessel shape as 'bucket' to that one specific role, nothing else and place such a taboo against it because of it. I think that A) The Trolls were just being particularly childish about the whole thing, like a human might be about someone eating a hotdog and/or B) It was just a throwaway joke by Hussie that lasted for a bit too long to still count as 'throwaway' and thus people mistook it for serious lore. I get your point, but they're aliens. Our school books contained things about astrology, but some of the facts were straight up fucking stupid. Example - the only planet that is 100% habitable is Earth, cause it has water. How do they know that aliens need water? For all we know, aliens might be in another plane of reality. |
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