Greetings From Earth C: Post-canon content discussion!

Yeah, but that was an extremely special exception. That very well might be the only lusus left on Earth. I didn't say it would be a cakewalk for them not to have lusii, but it might not be an option they have.

And besides. You keep ignoring my brilliant idea for them to raise zoo animals as replacements.

Oh my god.

While I could see young trolls being cared for by adults, I would like to point out that the reason that trolls lack parents is not just that their society passes off the task of raising their young to the lusii, although that is a symbiotic relationship that is probably written into their DNA. It is mostly because trolls do not have parents. That is simply not how they reproduce. And then there is the issue of how familial relationships would apply with quadrants. If an adult troll adopts a kid, are all of that adult troll's committed romantic partners now that kid's parents? What about their committed romantic partners? And theirs? And if so, now all those adults are parents of that one kid, and each one of them likely has just as many parents, how many grandparents does that kid now have? I am not even against the idea that some trolls are raised by other trolls, I think that probably ends up happening, I just have no idea how it would work.

I AM against the idea of trolls just replacing their lusii with normal animals, or having lusii and just treating them like pets. Lusii are not just wild animals, and not just because they instinctively take on the roll of guardian of a young troll, but because they are intelligent creatures. Not intelligent in the way that a particularly clever dog is intelligent, but intelligent in the way that consorts are. They could not be replaced with random animals, and keeping them as pets would be kind of weird.

Also, I realized that they had at least two lusii after they beat the game. There was the Mother Grub, and there was the humanimal butler who may or may not be Aurthour. Also, since Mother Grubs die of old age (we know Virgin Mother Grubs die young, which implies that normal Mother Grubs eventually die of old age), and their maximum lifespan is probably less than five thousand years, yet they still have a Mother Grub after five thousand years, which means there are probably multiple of those now. We also know that the candy blood lusus was bred into existence, presumably from previously existing lusii with different blood colors, so it may be possible that, even if they only had a few types of lusus left, they were able to breed new lusii for every blood color.That is definitely not WV's sash. The 'R' is the same color and font as "MAYO", and it does not look like it is five thousand years old. It is probably a replica. I mean, that still does not change that it is evidence of WV's death (I still think he might be alive), but it could just be, like, the uniform for all mayors on Earth C. Or WV retired. Or he lost his bid for reelection.

Did I miss something concerning Dave, Jade and Karkat? So many people seemed to have suddenly jumped on the poly bandwagon when all I saw was them just hanging out like friends.

Well, over the course of the story there's plenty of shipbait between Karkat/Jade, Dave/Jade, Karkat/Terezi, Dave/Terezi, and eventually Dave/Karkat. In retrospect, seeing how things ended up, I kind of think Hussie wrote in DaveKat towards the end in order to fuck with the love triangle trope further. Rose even lampshades the whole situation:

ROSE: I wonder what sturdy and time-tested narrative construct Jade is going to debunk whenever she wakes up. Maybe she will lay waste to the notion of endgame ships?

As such, I think the ending is left vague to let people ship whoever the hell they want. Them hanging out like friends hardly precludes the idea that there's a relationship, since that's what most romantic relationships look like when people aren't actively being physical with each other. Personally, I much prefer the idea that they're all just in a happy three-to-four-way vague relationship, because polyamory is underrepresented and also I like the idea of them going "fuck love triangles" and getting to have their cake and eat it too. Besides, it's the Troll Kingdom... having relationships with multiple people at once would arguably be more the norm there than strict monogamy would.

Yep, that's right! It's used in [S] John: Enter village, the flash in which we see Typheus for the first time, and at the end of Collide.

But another fun fact I only discovered a few months ago, that sound first appeared in Radiation's The Thirteenth Hour track on the Alternia album, at about 42 seconds in!



It wouldn't just be the Mother Grub that's different for them though. Trolls would presumably still be nocturnal while humans would live during the day, Trolls might still use Recuperacoons to sleep in while humans would use ordinary beds, Trolls might still use grubs instead of discs, and so on.

I think there's enough differences between the two races that it's easier to make two separate kingdoms that each focus on the needs of one of the species, and that "visitors" from the other kingdom would adjust to the lifestyle of the other species if they'd visit that kingdom (like what Dave and Jade seem to be doing in the Troll Kingdom).



Hehe, that would actually be pretty cool.



Or one's Karkat's moirail and the other his matesprit or something like that. Or Jade is Dave's matesprit and Dave's Karkat's moirail. Or Jade's Karkat's moirail and Dave is her matesprit.

I think it's funny how the relationship between them could go pretty much anyway and still make sense.



All the stuff in the house implies they're not just hanging out together like friends, but actually living together in one house as friends or as more than that.

The house itself looks like it's just Karkat's, but an image of stairs is on the door (Dave), there is a SBAHJ welcome carpet (Dave), there is a Ben Stiller photo (Dave), and there are some plants in bottles (Jade).

They were also shown digging up Statues of Liberty together, and sitting together in Can Town during the Act 7 flash.

So either they've all become really close friends that live together in one house, or there's more going on between them. And there have been enough romantical hints in all directions between these three already, so I would not be surprised if it's the latter.



And then there's the question of what effect the Seadwellers will have had on life in the ocean.

Plus, birds might also still be around, like how there were seagulls at Dirk's house on B2 Earth.



Haha, yeah, my pretty much only regret with this flash was that we didn't get to see B1 Jack, Ms. Paint and The Felt. I imagine all of them were also left behind in the past, who knows what kind of influence they had on each other and society during that time, hehe.

...that's because a2 session happened literally centuries ago (around 612 betwen trolls' entry and far future alternia iirc), there's nothing confirming that spades is so old

with everyone concerned about the lifespan of a chess dude, is there any evidence towards the lifespan of a leprechaun?

i really dont feel like there is much material for a possible "dadekat"(?) ship. whatever the heck THAT's about. it probably would rather be a triangle sort of thing, instead of poly. keep in mind, trolls don't really have polyamorous relations, besides the ashen quadrant.

It took me a good minute to realize "Dadekat" meant Dave/Jade/Karkat, I was thinking I was missing something about Dad here, haha.

But anyway, I personally doubt it's anything of a three-way relationship, but rather two seperate relationships at once. Something like Dave Karkat Jade, for example. But I think it's funny that I could switch those three names around in any way and it still sounds plausible to me, like Jade Dave Karkat, or Jade Karkat Dave.



I personally don't think it really makes sense for Spades Slick to mean it in that kind of way. One because the Trolls' session is in a totally separate timeline and Spades Slick might not even know how much time passed for Alternia between when they were still living there and when he's there, and two because why would he say "it's bad even though it was centuries ago" if he didn't mean it from his own perspective?

Wait a second.

Five kingdoms. Earth has five habitable continents: North-America, South-America, Africa, Eurasia, and Australia. What if the kingdoms each settled on a separate continent (assuming that after all the water receded after their timeskip the continents would still be like they were before)?

HMMMMM

Rose's GameFAQs walkthrough, but she very literally signed off on that.

Plus, unlike the other examples, Hussie never created the account in real life that I know.

My least favorite implied paring in the Credits is Dirk x Jake. I mean, we already saw how well they work together romantically, so why are they suddenly happy together now?

Also, although I don't like it, I think Hussie paired Roxy with Calliope so John would be feeling bored and dissatisfied enough to want to accept Caliborn's challenge.


Trolls were nocturnal because of the harsh Alternian sun; it could be that whatever star they put Earth around is far less bright (or alternatively farther away) than that of Alternia. And even if there that has caused some sort of nocturnal instinct in trolls, or for that matter the sun is as bright, that still doesn't bar them from living in the same nation and interacting with humans during dawn and dusk. Heck, many humans in real life modern society live nocturnal lives, working the nightshift and such.

Not really a problem, as unless you're having a sleepover, it doesn't really matter if you're neighbor sleeps in the same sort of bed as you.

That's an example of divergent technology, not a different biological need. There's no reason trolls can't use discs and humans can't use grubs. Presumably one format would eventually win out over the other by being better than the other, and even if they are roughly equivalent, it'd be like different gaming consoles back when they were truly different. And that's if either format still survived through 5,000 years of research and development.