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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 15, 2016 14:15:36 GMT
Current Rankings (updated until 05/08/2016 ):
delirious biznasty tier 1- Dave: 6.666667 points. SepulchriTier 2- Roxy: 6.733333 points. 3- Jade: 7.066667 points. 4- Terezi: 7.666667 points. 5- Karkat: 8.066667 points. 5- Rose: 8.066667 points. 7- Kanaya: 9.666667 points. God Tier 8- John: 9.866667 points. 9- Dirk: 12.133333 points. 10- Aradia: 14.000000 points. 11- Davesprite: 16.000000 points. 12- Vriska: 16.133333 points. 13- Wayward Vagabond: 18.066667 points. 14- Jack Noir: 18.400000 points. Mid Tier 15- Meenah: 18.600000 points. 16- Peregrine Mendicant: 18.733333 points. 17- Jane: 19.733333 points. 17- Dad: 19.733333 points. 19- Aranea: 20.000000 points. 20- Davepetasprite: 20.066667 points. 21- Doc Scratch: 20.333333 points. Low Tier 22- Jake: 20.400000 points. 23- Calliope: 20.933333 points. 23- Caliborn: 20.933333 points. 25- Nepeta: 21.666667 points. 26- Autoresponder: 21.733333 points. 27- Sollux: 22.800000 points. 28- Tavros: 24.866667 points. Bottom Tier 29- Crowbar: 25.066667 points. 30- Equius: 25.600000 points. 31- Clubs Deuce: 25.733333 points. 32- Andrew Hussie: 25.866667 points. 33- Feferi: 25.933333 points. 34- Jasprosesprite: 26.133333 points. 35- Eridan: 29.866667 points. Just Fuck That Guy Tier 36- Gamzee: 32.733333 points. Greetings! This is the latest sequel to one of the most popular threads in MSPA Forums, the Character Tier List. I was thinking of starting it over after Homestuck was over, and now that the previous Tier List was buried with MSPA Forums, it seems I'll have to do it anyway. This time around, I've decided to increase the size of the tier list. The characters who are included are the following: John Rose Dave Jade Jane Roxy Dirk Jake Aradia Tavros Sollux Karkat Nepeta Kanaya Terezi Vriska Equius Gamzee Eridan Feferi Aranea Meenah Calliope Caliborn Davesprite Jasprosesprite Davepetasprite Wayward Vagabond Peregrine Mendicant Jack Noir Clubs Deuce Doc Scratch Crowbar Autoresponder Dad Andrew Hussie
Now you're probably asking yourself how I chose those characters. Was it arbitrarily? Well, not completely. First of all, every character who was in the previous tier list was included in this one. That means all 8 human kids, 12 beta trolls, 2 cherubs and the 2 more important alpha trolls. Next, the remaining 12 characters correpond to all Homestuck characters who got to Round 2 of MSPA Madness 2016. There are a few catches I need to note though: - Jack Noir corresponds to all canon iterations of Jack, including Spades Slick. - Clubs Deuce includes all canon iterations of CD, including the ones named Courtyard Droll. - Dad means both Dad Egbert and Dad Crocker (the version on MSPA Madness was Egbert, but after Collide and what came afterwards, Crocker is probably at least as popular so I decided to merge them). - Vriska is the same as (Vriska). Well, the people who were around in the previous Tier List can now go and post their lists. For the ones who weren't, let me now explain how this works: - Rank all the 36 characters from the quote above, based on how much you like them. There is no objective criteria here, you can rank them however you like. - Please don't miss a single character and don't repeat any of them. Also please make an effort to spell them exactly the same way as in the quote. I can correct that if you don't, but that's extra work for me. I can't correct missed or repeated characters, though. - I will then place the lists submitted by each poster in a Matlab algorithm that will rank the characters based on a point system. It works like this: the character you rank 1st place will get 1 point, 2nd place will get 2 points, and so on. Then the characters' scores will be divided by the number of people who posted, and the characters will be ranked by lowest to highest amount of points. - You are allowed to change your tier list if you want. But please link to the page were you submitted the last version, to make my life easier. Also don't try to trick me, I'll know if someone tries to submit a list more than once. - You're free to use this thread discuss the characters of Homestuck. But note that I will not change the selection of characters after this begins, since it would screw with the mathematical system. I hope I've managed to cover enough popular characters so very few people will have something to complain. - This tier list has no connection with the previous ones. It's a reboot. Any votes you have made before do not count.
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 15, 2016 14:16:19 GMT
Tier List 3: Current Rankings (updated until post #424 ):
best charater in homestuck tier *character 1- Roxy: 5.203883 points. SepulchriTier 2- Karkat: 5.757282 points. 3- Dave: 6.485437 points. 4- Rose: 7.000000 points. 5- John: 8.524272 points. 6- Terezi: 8.533981 points. Top Tier 7- Kanaya: 8.932039 points. 7- Jade: 8.932039 points. 9- Dirk: 9.300971 points. 10- Vriska: 11.106796 points. 11- Meenah: 12.475728 points. Mid Tier 12- Aradia: 12.961165 points. 13- Caliborn: 13.679612 points. 14- Calliope: 14.417476 points. 15- Jane: 14.650485 points. 16- Jake: 14.757282 points. 17- Sollux: 14.990291 points. Low Tier 18- Nepeta: 16.223301 points. 19- Tavros: 16.563107 points. 20- Aranea: 16.601942 points. 21- Equius: 17.291262 points. 22- Feferi: 18.281553 points. 23- Eridan: 18.563107 points. Just Fuck That Guy Tier 24- Gamzee: 18.766990 points. Previous Votes: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Gcf3G-cYNE4EvZvvjt7iwoEBEEyTtWmoCQsaFcMoLcA/edit?usp=sharing
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Post by The One Guy on Apr 15, 2016 15:21:16 GMT
Now you're probably asking yourself how I chose those characters. Was it arbitrarily? Well, not completely. First of all, every character who was in the previous tier list was included in this one. That means all 8 human kids, 12 beta trolls, 2 cherubs and the 2 more important alpha trolls. Next, the remaining 12 characters correpond to all Homestuck characters who got to Round 2 of MSPA Madness 2016. I'm not sure how I feel about this. This list is supposed to be a ranking of important characters, not popular characters. Furthermore, a tournament is only good for determining first place, as it's entirely possible for a character to be screwed by position (for instance, it's likely DD would have made it far past the first round had he not been up against Problem Sleuth). Also, before I submit my rankings, when you say "Any other character with multiple selves includes every single self" does that mean Meenah is considered the same as the Condesce and Aranea is considered the same as Mindfang?
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 15, 2016 15:26:12 GMT
Last tier list I had to deal with multiple pages of people wanting the likes of WV and Jack to be in. There will never be a perfectly objective way of selecting it. And arguably WV and Jack and more important than half of the beta trolls. I realized that this criterium covers almost all of the popular characters while not being too arbitrary. If I added Round 1 characters, the number would skyrocket and a lot of silly stuff like Pumpkin would be included.
Also, I wanted to make the character selection different from last time so it would be an interesting thread, not just a repeat. Otherwise there wouldn't be much point other than the 200ish post-omegapause pages to change people's opinions.
And the tier list is about popularity. That's the whole theme. It's in the original name of the thread, which I just added in here too so people won't be mistaken.
Also you bring a good point on alt selves which I didn't think of. I wasn't considering them to be the same. I apologize for not being objective enough and I'm going to edit the first thread.
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Post by quixoticTokki on Apr 15, 2016 17:51:03 GMT
Interesting! I had to pull out the character sorter to help me organize my thoughts, lol, but here's what I ended up with. 1. Davesprite 2. Dave 3. Karkat 4. Roxy 5. Terezi 6. Sollux 7. John 8. Clubs Deuce 9. Wayward Vagabond 10. Eridan 11. Aradia 12. Jade 13. Calliope 14. Tavros 15. Jack Noir 16. Kanaya 17. Jane 18. Dirk 19. Jake 20. Davepetasprite 21. Meenah 22. Dad 23. Autoresponder 24. Feferi 25. Rose 26. Peregrine Mendicant 27. Nepeta 28. Crowbar 29. Aranea 30. Andrew Hussie 31. Jasprosesprite 32. Caliborn 33. Equius 34. Doc Scratch 35. Vriska 36. Gamzee
EDIT: Since other people did it I divided my list into sections too, and added more characters just for fun. Favs Davesprite Dave Karkat Love Roxy Terezi Sollux John Clubs Deuce Like Very Much Wayward Vagabond Eridan Aradia Like Jade Calliope Rufioh Tavros Spades Slick Kanaya Damara Jane Mituna Dirk Jake Davepetasprite Meulin Meenah Dad Indifferent The Felt Autoresponder Feferi Rose Latula Peregrine Mendicant Cronus Kankri Porrim Nepeta Hearts Boxcars Kurloz Diamonds Droog Aranea Andrew Hussie Aimless Renegade Snowman Generally Dislike Jasprosesprite Caliborn Equius Doc Scratch Horuss Loathe Entirely Vriska Gamzee
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Post by The One Guy on Apr 15, 2016 18:18:03 GMT
Ok, I've come up with my list: Rose Aradia Aranea Kanaya Roxy Terezi Jade Jasprosesprite Dirk Davepetasprite Doc Scratch Nepeta Feferi John Peregrine Mendicant Autoresponder Dave Jake Jane Karkat Dad Andrew Hussie Sollux Wayward Vagabond Equius Clubs Deuce Calliope Crowbar Tavros Davesprite Jack Noir Meenah Caliborn Eridan Vriska Gamzee I find it amusing that I like Davepetasprite better than Nepeta, Dave, and Davesprite on their own. I guess it's just a case of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. Also if you're curious here's my list divided into parts: Favorites: Rose Aradia Aranea
Love: Kanaya Roxy Terezi
Like: Jade Jasprosesprite Dirk Davepetasprite Doc Scratch Nepeta Feferi John Peregrine Mendicant Autoresponder
Indifferent: Dave Jake Jane Karkat Dad Andrew Hussie Sollux Wayward Vagabond Equius Clubs Deuce Calliope Crowbar Tavros Davesprite Jack Noir
Dislike: Meenah Caliborn Eridan
Hate: Vriska Gamzee
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Post by Neptz on Apr 15, 2016 19:06:53 GMT
of the ones i can remember off the top of my head favorites: dave davesprite jane
like: aranea when she isn't being a bitch nepeta gamzee when he's not sober karkat aradia feferi rose dad ARquiusprite the mAYOR roxy slick caliborn calliope
indifferent: john jade andrew sollux tavros all pre-scratch trolls except for aranea eridan all of the felt jake dirk all of the midnight crew except slick every important derse character pre-exile or not midnight crew/felt every important prospit character pre-exile LE HIC
dislike: sober gamzee
hate: aranea when she's being a bitch
i want this character to burn in hell: vriska
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 16, 2016 0:00:33 GMT
of the ones i can remember off the top of my head favorites: dave davesprite jane
like: aranea when she isn't being a bitch nepeta gamzee when he's not sober karkat aradia feferi rose dad ARquiusprite the mAYOR roxy slick caliborn calliope
indifferent: john jade andrew sollux tavros all pre-scratch trolls except for aranea eridan all of the felt jake dirk all of the midnight crew except slick every important derse character pre-exile or not midnight crew/felt every important prospit character pre-exile LE HIC
dislike: sober gamzee
hate: aranea when she's being a bitch
i want this character to burn in hell: vriska Please stick to the 36 characters shown in the first post.
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 16, 2016 0:01:13 GMT
First update!
And I didn't even have to change the top and bottom tier names.
I'll post my own list later.
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Apr 16, 2016 0:43:53 GMT
It's really hard doing the list to me, mainly because of how broken a lot of character arcs became during Act 6. If I ignore act 6 then my list would be different compared to including it. There are a few characters I hate putting lower because of the fact that they would be higher if I judged them mainly based on Act 5. But at the same time I can't ignore the fact that they were really good characters once?
Also thank you so much for saving everyone's votes from the previous one. It certainly makes voting a lot easier for me. xD
Karkat Dave Terezi Vriska Jade Jack Noir Roxy John Caliborn Kanaya Rose Davesprite Dirk Peregrine Mendicant Meenah Calliope Sollux Wayward Vagabond Aradia Aranea Tavros Eridan Andrew Hussie Davepetasprite Clubs Deuce Autoresponder Dad Doc Scratch Crowbar Jake Jane Nepeta Feferi Equius Gamzee Jasprosesprite
Jack Noir is really high because of Spades. I love Spades a lot. I kind of wish that Spades and Jack were separate, since I like Spades a lot more than I like Jack.
If I would have ignored Act6 then Vriska would be second (probably even tying Karkat for first), Terezi would be fourth and John would be higher on the list, behind Jade.
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Post by 2create on Apr 16, 2016 0:55:02 GMT
From most to least favourite: John Caliborn Karkat Dave Terezi Meenah Davesprite Jack Noir Nepeta Dad Equius Andrew Hussie Kanaya Vriska Roxy Jade Tavros Dirk Rose Aranea Sollux Wayward Vagabond Aradia Jane Peregrine Mendicant Calliope Crowbar Gamzee Clubs Deuce Jake Davepetasprite Doc Scratch Jasprosesprite Autoresponder Feferi Eridan
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 16, 2016 16:16:48 GMT
My list:
Dave Roxy Terezi Karkat John Dirk Doc Scratch Rose Jade Kanaya Autoresponder Vriska Davepetasprite Wayward Vagabond Meenah Caliborn Jack Noir Dad Davesprite Calliope Peregrine Mendicant Nepeta Aradia Aranea Crowbar Sollux Equius Jake Clubs Deuce Feferi Andrew Hussie Jasprosesprite Tavros Jane Gamzee Eridan
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 16, 2016 16:28:58 GMT
Also upd8.
Our favorite legislacerator just took the lead.
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Post by Ariestinak on Apr 16, 2016 17:17:37 GMT
Also upd8. Our favorite legislacerator just took the lead. You made me jump in my chair. Don't use that u word casually like that! My list: Karkat Dave Rose Roxy Terezi John Jade Wayward Vagabond Kanaya Doc Scratch Caliborn Peregrine Mendicant Clubs Deuce Jasprosesprite Dirk Crowbar Aradia Dad Sollux Davesprite Nepeta Meenah Tavros Aranea Feferi Jake Equius Gamzee Andrew Hussie Davepetasprite Vriska Jane Autoresponder Eridan Calliope Jack Noir
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Apr 17, 2016 4:58:24 GMT
Just you watch guys. Karkat will reclaim the spot as favourite. He had it once, he can do it again.
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Post by The Paradoxical Insurgent on Apr 17, 2016 5:59:33 GMT
Jack Noir Vriska Roxy Terezi John Rose Jade Kanaya Dave Aranea Meenah Aradia Davepetasprite Wayward Vagabond Caliborn Crowbar Doc Scratch Clubs Deuce Karkat Jane Dad Davesprite Calliope Peregrine Mendicant Nepeta Jake Feferi Dirk Sollux Equius Andrew Hussie Autoresponder Jasprosesprite Tavros Gamzee Eridan
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Post by partymember57 on Apr 17, 2016 6:37:16 GMT
Top Tier Characters that will always have special place in my heart: 1. Karkat 2. Dave 3. Spades Slick* 4. Caliborn 5. WV 6. Aimless Renegade* 7. PM 8. Davesprite
Characters that are pretty good for the most part: 1. Vriska 2. Meenah* 3. Roxy 4. Jade 5. John 6. Rose 7. Tavros* 8. Dirk 9. Calliope
People that I didn't really have an opinion of: Doc Scratch Jane Terezi Jake Nepeta Feferi
Annoying tier: Sollux Autoresponder Equius Aradia Eridan All of the dancestors accept for Aranea
People I hated and wanted to die: Aranea Gamzee Andrew Hussie (the comic version, not the IRL person)
*I was really sad about Slick and Aimless Renegade dying. Did not want them to die at all. If we get any information in the epilouge or implication that Tavros and Meenah perished, I'd be pretty sad too.
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Post by flagellumVagueness on Apr 17, 2016 16:26:38 GMT
Terezi Karkat Jade Dirk Kanaya Rose Roxy Vriska John Aradia Dave Autoresponder Meenah Calliope Davesprite Dad Caliborn Andrew Hussie Davepetasprite Wayward Vagabond Jake Equius Clubs Deuce Jane Crowbar Doc Scratch Peregrine Mendicant Jasprosesprite Jack Noir Aranea Sollux Nepeta Feferi Tavros Eridan Gamzee
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Post by imglasses on Apr 17, 2016 19:10:46 GMT
Roxy Kanaya Rose Jade Aradia Doc Scratch Dad Dirk Aranea Wayward Vagabond Peregrine Mendicant Crowbar Autoresponder Jake Caliborn Jack Noir Andrew Hussie Clubs Deuce Jasprosprite Davepetasprite Calliope Dave John Feferi Jane Meenah Davesprite Terezi Karkat Vriska Sollux Nepeta Equius Gamzee Tavros Eridan
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 17, 2016 21:04:53 GMT
Upd8 (no, not in the comic, in the tier list).
Roxy is back at the top, and Terezi's reign was short.
Gamzee remains isolated at the bottom having achieved nearly universal hate.
Vriska got the shaft this time, since she used to enjoy much higher positions. The post-retcon probably didn't help her. Although she is at 18th place, so that's cool.
Poor Karkat is at 7th place. Looks like his days of undefeated popularity are over, with the recent loss of protagonism.
Jade gets an unexpected 3rd place and shows that her recent appearances in the story helped her a lot.
And the bottom of the tier list seems almosr exclusively occupied by the lesser important beta trolls, at the 5 bottom positions. Other less popular characters include Jane, the comic author we all love, and a certain sprite with no sense of personal space.
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Finally, I'll list the posters whose lists got ignored because they didn't follow the format: neptz, partymember57
And an addendum. If you haven't noticed yet, i'm liking every post I update into the tier list. So if you want to know if your post got included or not, just see if I liked your post!
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Post by Neptz on Apr 17, 2016 22:50:46 GMT
of the ones i can remember off the top of my head favorites: dave davesprite jane
like: aranea when she isn't being a bitch nepeta gamzee when he's not sober karkat aradia feferi rose dad ARquiusprite the mAYOR roxy slick caliborn calliope
indifferent: john jade andrew sollux tavros all pre-scratch trolls except for aranea eridan all of the felt jake dirk all of the midnight crew except slick every important derse character pre-exile or not midnight crew/felt every important prospit character pre-exile LE HIC
dislike: sober gamzee
hate: aranea when she's being a bitch
i want this character to burn in hell: vriska Please stick to the 36 characters shown in the first post. Dave Davesprite Jane Autoresponder Roxy Dirk Aradia Jack Noir Rose Jade Karkat Dad Nepeta Feferi Terezi Caliborn Calliope Meenah John Tavros Andrew Hussie Aranea Sollux Jake Kanaya Equius Gamzee Crowbar Clubs Deuce Eridan Doc Scratch Peregrine Medicant Wayward Vagabond Davepetasprite Jasprosesprite Vriska wew that took a while
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Apr 17, 2016 23:58:16 GMT
Oh wow the results are quite surprising considering how these polls always went down. But I guess that's what happens when hardly any people are voting. And Vriska's spot is perfect (she should be on 8th place though). I'm happy that Jade is high on the list for once though.
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Post by eruditeChronicler on Apr 22, 2016 14:23:16 GMT
Tier Transparent 1. Jade 2. Rose 3. Aradia 4. Karkat 5. John
Planet Tier-er 6. Roxy 7. Kanaya 8. Vriska 9. Doc Scratch 10. Sollux
Boy-Tierlark 11. Crowbar 12. Peregrine Mendicant 13. Calliope 14. Terezi 15. Dirk
Pesky Tierchin 16. Dave 17. Meenah 18. Jane 19. Jake 20. Jack Noir
Greentier 21. Aranea 22. Wayward Vagabond 23. Andrew Hussie 24. Equius 25. Nepeta
Meh Tier 26. Tavros 27. Feferi 28. Davepetasprite 29. Autoresponder 30. Davesprite 31. Dad
Burn in Ogloloth's Gastrointestinal System Tier 32. Jasprosesprite 33. Clubs Deuce 34. Gamzee 35. Eridan 36. Caliborn
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Post by lyla on Apr 22, 2016 17:13:18 GMT
Ok then, let's do this again. Setting characters so low in the list feels weird because I literally don't hate or dislike anyone. I guess this list is more about who I like and care for the most vs. who I appreciate but I'm indifferent towards. Deciding most positions after the first five characters was so difficult, I tried making literal rounds to decide for anyone else this time. Some observations: Karkat and Dave are still my home boys, yeah. And I never stopped loving Terezi and Dirk, also yeah. I'm boring. Roxy has lost a few positions... I think she was too perfect by the end and it made her a little boring to me. I like flaws and suffering and shitty people, alright? :U Gamzee has lost so many positions because he stopped feeling like a character to me, honestly, but I still hold some fascination for him. Vriska lost many too, but probably it's just because I'm supposed to count Vriska and (Vriska) as the same person, so it fucked up her position. PM gained a lot of positions because she's just that much of a badass. It's kind of a pity for the characters that didn't have enough room in the story overall, because I can't care about them as much as I do others (Davepeta being the huge exception). Teh favs:Karkat Dave Terezi Dirk Davepetasprite Other favs:Davesprite Jade Roxy Rose Peregrine Mendicant Jake Also great characters:Kanaya Vriska Autoresponder Calliope Doc Scratch Other characters I love:Aradia Caliborn Wayward Vagabond Nepeta Dad Characters I like:Meenah Tavros Jack Noir Gamzee Aranea Jasprosesrite Other characters I like but I'm neutral towards:Sollux Crowbar Equius Clubs Deuce Andrew Hussie Eridan Feferi
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 17:49:50 GMT
too many names and why the fuck is crowbar and clubs deuce and people like that even on the list
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