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Post by soeroah on Jan 26, 2017 5:18:58 GMT
Hmm, did Nora ever piece together the 8-player session in Skaialab?
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Post by The One Guy on Jan 26, 2017 16:43:18 GMT
That makes sense, although if we go the way of the pre-Scratch session, “”DS”” will be serving more than one player. Ugh, ENOUGH with this initial shit, JUST GIVE ME THE D!!!…Ahem. Dirty jokes aside, I'd say Dirk does, in fact, get more than one person into the game... Oh, the chances are greater than you think! Yep, that sounds like Page of Hope powers! Well, she can't get everything right; though to be fair, HIC is controlling Earth’s new First Guardian.
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Post by morganwick on Jan 26, 2017 21:15:03 GMT
I think Minda picked out the exact YouTube video of "How Do I Live" John later sends Vriska to illustrate John's Con Air re-enactment with Casey, resulting in... Came here because homestuck Not surprising. Okay, one, Minda shouldn't be reading the comments of anything remotely Homestuck-related, but two, wait until you see what specifically might have delivered that commenter there... Boy, I can't wait for him to find out Karkat's name. This is an interesting change from so many livebloggers who are suspicious at Terezi's motives at "helping" John from the start. He doesn't even get suspicious when she gives her plan to kill the denizen in its sleep, calling it "standard speed running strategy". Wonder if being a gamer makes him more inclined to view Sburb as a game, rather than a real setting where the kids are with real consequences and where everyone behaves realistically. Well, Dave is kinda-sorta awake too... Yet. Oh, you're in for some fun later in the act... Both Dad’s and adult!Dave’s water bills must be outrageous. Luckily for Dirk, you're making two erroneous assumptions there. Snrk. Oh, it won't be the mystery troll you're thinking of... Also, she wants to marry Roxy now and thinks she knows about "wriggling day" and other troll concepts because of Calliope (before pivoting to "HIC is totally the new First Guardian"). And Soeroah, I'm pretty sure she did not notice the eight-player session in the Skaianet lab (that was part 12 of her blog, incidentially).
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Post by soeroah on Jan 27, 2017 8:18:51 GMT
I'm caught between opinions on whether to bring it to her attention now or when she's done.
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Post by The One Guy on Jan 27, 2017 20:29:37 GMT
The JiW Game Over react is up!
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Post by soeroah on Jan 29, 2017 10:05:41 GMT
*Rushes to see react*
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Post by morganwick on Jan 30, 2017 2:30:59 GMT
...um, Soeroah, Nick doesn't do audio reacts, The One Guy was just saying he'd put up his text reaction... …no way. There’s no way this is starting with Karkat being fatally stabbed! And then dropped into the lava, where he sinks and, needless to say, will die. Okay, okay, pause for a moment. Is this how this is going to be, Hussie? People are going to die? Well that’s…actually something you’d totally do. Bets on who’ll survive to the end of the flash? Um, um…hard to say. Gamzee is a given, that’s for sure. The Condesce surely will live, too. Aranea three. Um…Jake? I don’t know, it’s hard to predict who’ll live! You are starting to realize Game Over takes no prisoners. Truly, no one is safe. You might be in for some surprises. And he doesn't think of John's retcon powers saving the day. Also, Minda has his first audio react of Dave: Accelerate, and he initially thought Dave got the idea of the iShades and his suit from John, and was caught completely off-guard by the "dead heir and witch" line. Hmm… I see three distinct possibilities here. From least likely to most likely: 1. This is all a big misunderstanding. The trolls really were trying to help and John just fucked up. 2. Yup. Trolls gotta troll. They really were just trying to get these kids killed for the lolz. 3. I think the most likely situation is that the trolls know about the Knight of Time’s ability to rewind the clock. So yes, they were trying to get John killed, but since that’s something that can be fixed, they don’t think of it as “murder”. It’s like killing someone in an MMO. They’re not really dead, so it’s no big deal. The morality of this stance is… debatable to say the least, but there is a logic to it. Turns out they were trying to help by getting John killed, but Terezi didn't think through the consequences of Davesprite going back. The former quote seems to suggest he figured out what was going on with the multiple Daves in Accelerate, but I'm not sure if the latter does? Do these quotes plausibly refer to different things? The first quote is accompanied with an image of a single Dave using the timetables, so he may figure Dave just repeated that scene. Note that he's only gotten as far as that conversation at the moment. Did they piss someone off or something? 12 people at once? Man, I guess I'm lucky. Heh, that makes one think, online mobs bullying whoever drew their ire. ...does he not know about the trolls? Is he going to have an unadulterated reaction to the revelations to come?
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Post by soeroah on Jan 30, 2017 10:35:16 GMT
Yeah, I worked that out pretty quick.
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Post by The One Guy on Jan 30, 2017 15:35:04 GMT
Hmm… I see three distinct possibilities here. From least likely to most likely: 1. This is all a big misunderstanding. The trolls really were trying to help and John just fucked up. 2. Yup. Trolls gotta troll. They really were just trying to get these kids killed for the lolz. 3. I think the most likely situation is that the trolls know about the Knight of Time’s ability to rewind the clock. So yes, they were trying to get John killed, but since that’s something that can be fixed, they don’t think of it as “murder”. It’s like killing someone in an MMO. They’re not really dead, so it’s no big deal. The morality of this stance is… debatable to say the least, but there is a logic to it. Turns out they were trying to help by getting John killed, but Terezi didn't think through the consequences of Davesprite going back. Huh? Terezi wasn't trying to help, nor was she trying to get John killed. She was trying to mess with the timeline and see what would happen.
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Post by morganwick on Jan 31, 2017 19:59:50 GMT
Turns out they were trying to help by getting John killed, but Terezi didn't think through the consequences of Davesprite going back. Huh? Terezi wasn't trying to help, nor was she trying to get John killed. She was trying to mess with the timeline and see what would happen. The main thing I was remembering when I said that was Davesprite shaming Terezi for creating the conditions that would lead to the timeline playing out as it already had for the trolls, so I was thinking she was trying to derail the timeline that screwed the trolls over. But then as I was typing this I remembered earlier in the conversation when Terezi says "OF COURS3 1 KN3W 1T W4SN'T GO1NG TO WORK, W3'V3 B33N T4LKING TO JOHN 1N TH3 FUTUR3, YOUR FUTUR3, WH3R3 H3'S NOT D3AD". And she also says "1 H4D A F33L1NG TH4T M1GHT H4PP3N" when Davesprite mentions coming back in time and stopping him from getting himself killed, so basically it pretty much boils down to Minda's #3 but not quite in the way he describes it. Last time almost everyone died and the session has been colossally derailed. Fixing it would be a monumental task, especially since reviving so many people is going to be difficult. Or you could make it so no one needs to be revived in the first place. Ah, you finally figured that out. Of course, it's not a doomed timeline in the sense you're familiar with. He doesn't have an open submission box, so sending him Hussie's newspost on god-tier judgments would be difficult, but I might try to summarize his take on Rose's death.
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Post by The One Guy on Feb 6, 2017 15:22:30 GMT
It seems Minda just can't wrap his head around multiple timestreams.
He also predicts Bec being prototyped (unfortunately due to fanart he saw once), but fails to realize the ramifications of that.
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Post by morganwick on Feb 6, 2017 21:44:07 GMT
Two Daves. Hopefully we can avoid getting into Problem Slueth Territory with Future Past Dave, Future Future Dave and so forth. You're going to wish it was that simple. Davesprite, not John deciding not to jump to the denizen's lair, was the first substantive thing that changed from the Davesprite timeline... #otim Correct, but not for the troll you guess it for. Regarding calling Becsprite, this is one of those things that can get truly aggravating in how it affects how someone reads the comic; something tells me Minda isn't going to be fooled by the "demon" red herring at the end of Hivebent for a second. Meanwhile, it's starting to look like we should add Emily to the list of Rosemary shippers. the talk about inevitable futures is growing more… forlorn. as if even the narrator is resigned to things happening this way. granted, i think character!hussie is a little more power hungry and devious than that, but the resignation feels like it could be setting up a “fuck destiny!” plot which i am 100% all for Submitted without comment. Well in a non spoilery way the comic used ophiucus somewhere so I think at some point the ophiucus fantrolls stopped appearing Of course she doesn't have an ask screener to tell you off, but it seems like any ask that begins "without being spoilery..." is probably spoilery. FUUUUUCCKCKCKK YOUUUUUUU VRISKA FUCK YOU SIDEWAYS INTO THE DEEPEST DEPTHS OF HELL :::
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Post by soeroah on Feb 7, 2017 10:43:38 GMT
What kind of mind must that person have to think confirming the existence of a troll outside the basic twelve as being canon wasn't a spoiler.
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Post by The One Guy on Feb 7, 2017 16:15:09 GMT
What kind of mind must that person have to think confirming the existence of a troll outside the basic twelve as being canon wasn't a spoiler. To be fair, all the asker said was that the symbol would be used, not that it would represent a troll, (and even if the liveblogger makes the assumption that it is another troll they'd be wrong as it's a cherub). Not that that makes it right, it's still giving away future information that can influnce one's theorizing and reactions, but the above is probably that asker's mindset.
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Post by The One Guy on Feb 9, 2017 20:49:28 GMT
If you care about the "Let Me Tell You About Homestuck" podcast, the "Alpha" Cascade react is up. (Skip to about an hour 20 minutes if you just want Cascade.)
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Post by morganwick on Feb 9, 2017 22:32:43 GMT
Nora is already starting to ship Dirk and Jake, even if she does find Dirk an insufferable prick. What’s interesting to me, though, is that the most intelligent character in any work of fiction can only be as intelligent as the author. Hey, that's Wick's Rule of Fictional Intelligence, you don't get to rip it off even though I've never posted about it anywhere before! ;D *WONK* (nobody ask her if Jade would then have told Jake anything...) The real solution for the question you're trying to sort out above. Eh, there'll be something more deserving of that title in A6A6I5. I have to imagine she'd have had a bigger reaction if she'd had to audio-react to that... ;(
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Post by The One Guy on Feb 10, 2017 16:53:39 GMT
Fair enough. Dave’s trolling skills are beyond doubt, so I absolutely believe that he was just fucking with John, but John still stepped in it pretty badly. It's interesting to see another take on that situation for once.
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Post by Ariestinak on Feb 10, 2017 19:21:26 GMT
Nick is getting closer to the retcons. I'm waiting for his reaction to John preventing Vriska's death and Caliborn's masterpiece. Then, we just have to wait to see how much he'll get disappointed by the ending.
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Post by morganwick on Feb 10, 2017 21:47:39 GMT
If the trolls stopped contacting the kids after John died, then five of the six conversations that Virgo had with Rose never happened. In fact, Virgo’s very first contact with Rose was one such casualty, and she copy/pasted that conversation over to Rose (although she may or may not have edited it first). So how did Rose’s Second/Virgo’s Seventh conversation go in the Doomed Timeline? It certainly didn’t happen the way we saw it. Virgo spent the majority of that conversation discussing events that couldn’t have occurred. Similar paradoxes exist with the other trolls too, Virgo’s are just the easiest to shine a light on. Yes, that totally makes sense, you think. That said, it seems it might not necessarily be so much that he doesn't understand what's going on at that point as he doesn't want to admit to himself what's going on: You're not going to like what you learn about doomed timelines later, but you will like how the characters deal with it. something something "that won't save you when you get to the ministrife" something Insert Dirk/AR comment here. I don't think I've seen any liveblogger come to this conclusion, even though it would seem to be the most obvious interpretation of what Davesprite says, even though it contradicts what John was going to do to say nothing of the implications for the troll session.
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Post by The One Guy on Feb 21, 2017 15:24:59 GMT
Minda reached ectobiology! It took him a bit, but he ultimately made all the proper connections. But just before that... Just as a fun thing to look back on, which troll that you have not met do you think will be most similar to you? Honestly? Probably Scorpio.
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Post by morganwick on Feb 21, 2017 22:13:01 GMT
I get the gist that Scorpios are prickly bastards, and since that accurately describes most of the trolls already, I’m really curious to see what THE Scorpio is like. Personally, I think this is the Vriska-related comment we'll most look back and laugh on (although combined with identifying Scorpio as the troll he's most likely to be like, it makes me wonder just what he must be like, and also whether he might actually like Vriska...). In any case, I know what ask I'm sending after the crippling of Tavros... Of course, it turns out that having your leader come here and fiddle with the controls of this thing is exactly what's supposed to happen. Be glad BKEW is still too hurt over the ending to be following any liveblogs anymore... Whoa. Is that true, that John's house is actually on the former site of the prankster shop and didn't exist until after John arrived? The layout of the monitor used in ectobiology being the same as that used by the Exiles as foreshadowing the ability for guardians to play the game? #otim There were actually some moments, around the transition from Jade/Grandpa to Dave/Bro, when I wondered whether he was catching on already, but this suggests not. Wait for it... Aaaaand there it is, that's what we were looking for! The ectobiology sequence really is a rite of passage for livebloggers. I feel like just this sequence got Minda a lot more into Homestuck than he was before.
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Post by The One Guy on Feb 24, 2017 15:44:49 GMT
Nora addressing her Act 6 predictions: We will see the session that created the trolls’, and it will have some role to play in solving the mysteries of the game’s origins. Lord English will somehow be involved with the origin of the game. Is he a corrupted game element? A virus? Did he create it? Was it his session that spawned the trolls’? Another possibility for UU’s origins, although it would make more sense if she had come from whatever future session this Sburb session spawns. UU mentions not having entered her game yet, so it seems unlikely she’d have knowledge of the post-Scratch trolls’ session if that’s the one she’s creating. And she can’t be from the post-Scratch troll session… right? But she’s definitely a troll, so… @_@
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Post by morganwick on Feb 25, 2017 1:27:43 GMT
For Bro, maybe… Heir? That seems to be about letting go of what you think you know. Prince might fit too, since my current understanding is that it’s about ruling over things, and he claims he’s going to be the one running their session. *scratches foot on the floor* You've got the wrong half of the title in common with Nepeta, and also the wrong Heart player. *scratches foot on the floor more nervously* Oh, another harraser. I'm... I'm starting to think they are really aliens. Or at least not human. That's after Tavros' conversation with Dave. Nyahh. Why are you laughing at me? Chibipaw, make them stop laughing at me. Only two quotes separate these two comments. From "this has nothing to do with Homestuck" to "this is after the Exiles rebuilt civilization" in one Jeff Foxworthy picture (even if he has the wrong planet, and also doesn't recognize Spades as Jack Noir). You can kill her, but it'd have drastic consequences... But why would DD need to bring the genetic code here of all places? What could he use it for… Oh no.He’s going to create Bec. Why does he want Bec to exist? So that Jade will prototype him with her Kernelsprite. Jack Noir takes on the attributes of the Sprites through his ring, so if he takes on the attributes of this flipping thing, then we’re in for some serious trouble. If the troll session is any indication, the dark kingdom doesn't need any extra motivation to create the First Guardian, but DD is being manipulated by an agent trying to engineer the creation of Bec Noir... Well a horrible nightmare from the elder gods is pretty high up there. That definitely points towards the other Roxy’s death. Jade is already going through a lot of grief, spending three years alone in that battleship, so this’d mean Rose would suffer the same, wouldn’t she? Damn, poor Rose. That’s going to hurt. Especially considering the circumstances of that death.
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Post by The One Guy on Mar 2, 2017 15:10:09 GMT
All three of John’s friends gave him the exact same bunny for his birthday! Why didn’t I think of it before? AHAHAHA! This is perfect! Judging by the pillars of smoke that have been behind AR, PM, and VW during these little flash-forwards, the exiles got to earth via meteor impact too. That, or all three of them just suck at piloting whatever it is they took to get here. Huh. Obvious thing I missed.
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Post by morganwick on Mar 2, 2017 20:43:58 GMT
Sounds like Minda has gotten so wrapped up in Homestuck he isn't taking a break at the end of Act 4 after all! In fact he plowed right on through into Hivebent without even stopping for the night! In hindsight, now that I know the explanation for “Dumb Rose” I’m a little surprised that Rose didn’t recognize John’s writing style after she saw the script. I’ve gotten pretty good at that, and Rose probably knows him better than I do. Then again, we never did see the edits that Virgo tauntingly may or may not have made, so maybe she mixed it up just enough to throw Rose off. Once you do see them, you'll be even more surprised. And universal instantiations. Wonder what he'll think of the "Jade's grandson" teasing? In WV's case, he has a very good reason for being unable to control his craft... He still doesn't recognize Karkat as being one-half of Davekat even after being introduced to his name, or at least doesn't bring it up. There is one troll where Hussie is willing to put in a little extra effort into her clothes... Calling Vriska being part of the red team this early, even if you don't quite know what that means and even if you have Sollux on the wrong team? I mean, if it's based on who you've already gotten a glimpse of it's certainly reasonable and possibly even a path blazed by other livebloggers... That's enough stuff I'm saving other bloggers for a later post, but I did some searching and found two newish liveblogs that unfortunately seem to have already tripped out the starting gate: mabel-reads-homestuck (which appears to have only one round of updates) and robbiereadshomestuck (which has a couple of more recent updates but hasn't updated in about a week).
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