Post by HypergressiveAgent on Nov 8, 2016 0:42:14 GMT
I would like to think that with the release of Hiveswap, that interest in homestuck (and by extension, all things MSPA) will increase, and that the need for these forums, given the unfortunate loss of the original MSPA forums, will greatly increase. As a consequence, new people will come into the community, and will want to use these forums.
But a precursory search of all major READ ME threads that speak to all of this forum in general say nothing on the matter of "what should new forum users do?" I have seen no area intended for new users to introduce themselves, or any guidelines in regarding how they should introduces themselves. I am aware that the general consensus is that if you are here that you were a user on the old forums, but what about users that do not fall into that category? What about the lurkers, who would browse the forum's various discussion sections and general shenanigans, but never post anything themselves, or even create an account for that matter.
I fall into this category, and failing to see any other guidelines, will make this thread to serve as my introduction to the rest of the forums, and to set some kind of template (through discussion) by which other new users can introduce themselves. If, by sheer chance, introductions on these forums are not considered of particular import, by apathy or otherwise, then this thread will serve as a lasting monument for all new users to see, shouting into the dark night:
Nice to meet you, hypergressiveagent. I think you raise a lot of good points! I'd love to see an introduction / "Hey I'm back!" thread, and a new user guide would be neat to show off the cool features of the forum. Specifically, there's a lot of cool fanventures going on and getting people interested in them seems keen to me.
I think you'll find there's a lot of care given here, no one to shout into that dark night with apathy.
Post by HypergressiveAgent on Nov 8, 2016 1:12:46 GMT
Aw yiss. we CARE about stuff here on OMEGA forums.
Although HELLA obvious, I suppose as part of an introduction you detail/list some stuff that you care about, starting with stuff that is immediately relevant to this forum (homestuck/Hiveswap, then the old MSPA adventures like Problem Sleuth), then stuff that is similar to or reminiscent of Homestuck (undertale, steven universe, earthbound/chrono trigger/), and then things that are tangentially related or unrelated. this shall serve as the first tenet of the "im new, what do" user guidelines, at least for now.
Still up in the air on where new people should introduce themselves, but one thing at a time. Without these kind of guidelines, people would just post in threads randomly, and while some might not care who posts what, others care about community, and would want to know more about who comes into the forums. (in other words, some people would like to know "whos this douchebag?")
At the very least, I feel that random posting and thread creation for the purposes of letting people know who you are should be avoided, as it would clutter the site, and, "while sloppy is fine", we should try to keep sloppiness organized.
Last Edit: Nov 8, 2016 1:38:20 GMT by HypergressiveAgent: failure to properly acknowledge valid points made by other users is an even greater atrocity than walls of text or misspellings, combined
Post by HypergressiveAgent on Nov 8, 2016 16:09:15 GMT
Very good. I guess that is the place to do that. I suppose all that is really left is to keep this thread up for new people to look at, and to see that thread. iIcan tell you right now I wouldn't have thought to look in the General Discussion sub forum for such a a place. Thank you, you silly Conformist
Finding a place for introductions is actually pretty massive, and has begun to impress upon me the power of "Wiki Magic." this thread is looking to be more redundant by the minute, but we haven't really hammered out/ finalized any kind of guidelines for introductions, outside of the 1st tenet above.
That being said, this seems like a pretty casual forum, and outside of designating a place for people to introduce themselves (in order to avoid random thread creations like this one), I am not sure we need to formalize HOW people introduce themselves. Any fresh input on the matter would be more than welcome.
First of all I think I should point out the main reason why a lot of stuff here wasn't that hammered out yet: this isn't supposed to be a permanent forum. It's only meant to last until the new MSPA Forums are released (except for Forum Adventures and Fan Projects, which will be allowed to remain open as long as the owners of those threads like). Information about this kind of stuff has mostly been discussed in the Fate of the MSPA Forums topic.
So yeah, when I first created this I thought we'd barely need it for a few days or weeks at most! Only when it became clear it would be needed much longer I began hammering out some things, but never really did hammer out things completely.
That being said, you do raise some pretty good points here! Stickying the (Re)introduction Thread was a great idea.
And yeah, you're right it might be useful to have a pointer to what new users should do, I'll try making something like that as soon as possible! Thanks for the feedback!
If you've got any more questions and/or suggestions about these forums, feel free to ask them!
Post by HypergressiveAgent on Nov 8, 2016 18:54:10 GMT
Makes sense. Even now, the loss of the original forums haunts us. It always will, I suppose, until they either come back (which we can't control directly) or these forums become developed enough that they serve a fitting replacement, which we can control by continuing to post, and to shout into that dark night and say, "we are still here! we still care!".
That being said, if the original forums DO come back in the case of the 2nd scenario, a split would almost assuredly occur between new guys (like me) and vets (like Blaperile)on the old forums. It would be very messy, much like the current situation(in sheer spite of the longevity of its existence), and I don't envy the many headaches I am sure mods and admins have had to deal with and will continue to deal with until this all gets sorted out, one way or another.
So I would like to simultaneously thank you guys for working hard to make these forums work under this organizational nightmare, and to apologize for having to deal with it, though I myself never actually did anything to bring that burden upon you; only the problem that is the current topic of this thread. Go mods!
Speaking to the topic of this thread, I have some general ideas, but nothing really hammered out yet. I do check in on this thread every so often, so if you have ideas, I downright implore you to suggest them.
In the meantime, I'm going to work on a word doc outlining what I think are major points of how you should introduce yourself, once I handle some IRL stuff. Expect a post based off said doc sometime between 3 hours from this post to Friday; this wide range is undesirable, but IRL comes before these forums, sadly, and I am reluctant to commit to schedule to work on the doc while more pressing matters are still up in the air.
Last Edit: Nov 8, 2016 19:18:15 GMT by HypergressiveAgent: damn Blaperile beating me to the punch already. Truly a mod worthy of my fear and respect. Still intend to make the doc for listing suggestions