Homestuck Liveblog Thread 5.5

Well, JiW certainly had a much more positive view of Collide than I did in almost every way.

I'm still of the belief that the pre-Scratch trolls just had a random bomb of the same style, not another Tumor, so I wouldn't necessarily say Minda is "overconfidently wrong" here.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here?

Eh, I think it's distanced enough to what actually happens to not really be worth pointing out, but if you do want to do so anyway, I'd hold off until after she takes control of Jade as to not spoil that the powers will indeed be used with major consequences.

A refreshing reaction, imo.

If anything, I think Nick's reaction in part has to do with how chopped up his reading is (interspersed with another webcomic and a web novel), so that the previous pages aren't as fresh in mind as in a true archive binge and the storytelling failures of A6A6I5 aren't as top-of-mind during Collide/Act 7, plus not being as overly-analytical as some people I could name and so not as in sync with the arcs that got dropped, ignored, or only addressed in the credits. His reaction to Collide is not dissimilar to my reaction to Act 7: in isolation great, in the context of what preceded it not so much.

Mostly just that she seemed mad enough during the incident in A6I5.

Huh. Connecting Vriska's role in Bec's creation with the Dave that tried to go back and stop DD from taking the MEOW book. Was that a conclusion anyone came to at the time or subsequently?

On the other hand, would Karkat have even had an opportunity to learn about that before meeting with Terezi on the rooftop at the end of the act? Terezi seemed to imply that she only learned of Vriska's culpability in Bec's creation while she was investigating her for all the murders that were going on (and Vriska only admits it in this conversation which leads directly to Tavros' death).

You'll find Karkat is wrestling with a similar question (to say nothing of the whole deal with Lord English and the retcons).

I'm just going to leave this here for you to think about as you wish.

Edit: Hey The One Guy, I've been rereading Lil Sis because of how starved we've been for content, and I knew Minda wasn't the first to call Vriska being responsible for Jade's narcolepsy ahead of time. (I thought maybe Nora had, but while her reaction to Vriska's line was "I KNEW IT" I don't think she actually said anything about it before that point.)

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Part of me wants to grumble at megazaprat for sending that ask at a point where there's very little for him to go on, but that's surprisingly spot-on even if he has no idea at this point what exactly the connection is (even if, again, there aren't many other things he could guess at this point).

In this case, there's actually a reasonable explanation for it. Well, reasonable for this comic.

Well, Jack will be coming out of that flower around the time the countdown ends.

Well... the WK and this version of CotL are completely irrelevant, only there to add some angst and tragedy to Cascade, but CotL as a whole is relevant to the rest of the comic.

...Guys, I think we have a new contender for Seer of Plot. Also, somewhat amusingly, he ships Terezi as auspistice between Karkat and Dave, while also having John Karkat and Dave Terezi. [S] Wake audio react coming tomorrow, and given his Undertale LP and some other things he's said about it, why do I have a feeling a decent chunk of it is just going to be him geeking out over hearing Megalovania?

I only have one thing to take out of Nick's wrap-up post...

...most of what I could say here would be either talking out of my ass or excessively political...

Nah, I don't think there's any particular reason to avoid showing future Jade, at least any reasons involving Jade herself as opposed to what she's doing. Of course she will reach god tier later, but on the same route as John and Vriska.

This is even more appropriate when you consider the actual meaning of the "prince" title...

This is just upon seeing Karkat's screen, before even reading the pesterlog. But I thought he hated Gamzee's quirk... )

This is just after seeing the repeated honks so he could see Gamzee's new quirk.

As time went on I started wondering if part of the reason Minda classified Gamzee as "not enough information" instead of "safe", beyond just skimming his pesterlogs, was because he wasn't sure how docile he'd be once he was off the sopor slime. Obviously Minda never confirmed that and revealing it now wouldn't be entirely convincing, but...

I think we've had LMTYAH posted a few different times but never consistently, though I think the spreadsheet has only one entry for it.

Krix is holding off on showing Minda RDA until after Roxy: Sleepwalk, since at least some aspect symbols don't show up in the comic proper until then, and an earlier post actually indicated waiting even longer, until Myststuck, which would make more sense if the Rage symbol shows up in RDA, since if there are no doomed Gamzees there would be no opportunity to see the Rage symbol in Sleepwalk or likely at all until Gamzee offers to be Jane's guide.

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And yet Minda is if anything less skeptical of what Scratch says in this conversation than some other livebloggers. He even quotes the part where he talks about "venturing out" to destroy the Sun with the Tumor that "has enough power" to destroy it, but only to wonder if all First Guardians are tasked with summoning Lord English or if he's had "a variety of herlads across the multiverse". Just like with Vriska and Rose, he can tell Minda all of his moves before he makes them and still win.

This is his reaction to Rose going grimdark:

I find it hilarious how understated this is and how utterly unfazed he is. He just quotes what Rose said earlier about the Scratch.

Wrong ancestor!

It's things like this that lead me to maintain a pseudo-forbidden page for Minda in a Notepad file. And in turn, it's that more than anything else that leads me to sit through way more audio reacts and streams than I would for any other liveblogger, even Nora, even after he pulled his best FOAL impression on Monday and streamed everything from Seer: Descend through Flip (which is the sort of thing that killed my interest in Duck), even though he pronounces several trolls' names differently than I do, reads every single line of dialogue (though he doesn't try too hard to have different voices for each character), and does less analysis than he would in a straight text liveblog. I've sat through enough of his audio reacts I might as well go back and watch his Alterniabound stream, maybe even catch up on FOAL or even LOFAS and Duck.

(It's also because of this that I waited longer than I otherwise would to post this, to the point I had to rewrite it from scratch (heh) last night due to computer problems. I didn't want this bit of out-of-nowhere accuracy to get lost in all the other stuff I'm spewing on here, and wanted to see if The One Guy or someone else would bring it up themselves.)


Geez, first Minda doesn't classify Gamzee as "safe" and claims to have wondered what would happen when he ran out of slime, now Emily paints him as a creepy potential holy clown tyrant just upon hitting Alterniabound. At this rate, the next liveblogger to make it out of Hivebent is going to be on their guard against Gamzee snapping from the start...assuming there ever will be another liveblogger to make it that far of course (oh dear god is the whole liveblogging thing dying).

It's been... so long. But I still exist.

I haven't been following Liveblogs in a while. Checked Nora recently and was slightly concerned by her apparent disappearance. But regardless.

Who are the good livebloggers these days?

Well, Minda (mindareadsoots) is pretty good, but with Nick finishing there aren't really any other truly active liveblogs, at least on Tumblr, unless you count Emily's short bursts of reading separated by a month or more, or IDT and Elf's vows to return.

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So a combination of Nora's experience with RDA and Minda being basically the male Nora is responsible for Krix's stance here?

Nah, she's apprenticed more directly to Scratch's boss. Which I guess is the same thing.

That... sure is a conclusion you just came to there!

This is an older Emily post where she flubbed the tag I use to follow her posts, so I only re-discovered it now. It's where she discovers the broken link to the end of Con Air:
Huh, funny how well that line works with the link being broken. On that note, here's another post from a blog that's really old that's unexpectedly relevant:
Probably a sign of how much Homestuck fandom has regressed that this didn't happen and we only learned about it at all from liveblogs.

Upon Jaspers talking about her life with what we now know to be Roxy:
Right, but for the wrong reasons.

Nice; we've been starved for liveblogs for a while now! Word of advice, though: The "infinate scrolling" mode for tumblr is not good for things where you want to read through the whole archives like liveblogs; you should probably switch to having pages.

i will pass on the recommendations re: tagging and infinite scrolling. i think blue is about as tumblr-savvy as i am, which is to say not at all, but maybe we'll figure something out.