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Post by cookiefonster on Oct 26, 2016 11:51:09 GMT
Well, that was quite something. I've been completely disconnected from MSPA since the final update, and pretty much Away From Community since the official forums went down, but this appeared in my youtube subscriptions and I watched it and OHMYGOD. I was shivering, and actually laughed out loud at "We found another liberty". It's funny how emotionally connected I am to Homestuck, far more than any other piece of media I've seen. So, of course, I had to hop on and talk about it here, just like old times. Speaking of which, I'm so happy to see a lot of people that I still know around: Blaperile, PlainWonder, cookiefonster, The One Guy, obsidalicious, banditAffiliate, mementovivere and all the other people: you probably don't remember me, but I remember you! It's just like coming home. I'm legitimately so happy I think I'm going to cry. Holy shit someone mentioned me
I kind of vaguely remember you through your avatar, that's about it. But it's cool seeing you here again.
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Oct 26, 2016 13:10:01 GMT
Ah wow it's been awhile. I was starting to really lose complete interest in homestuck and my attempt in re-reading acts 1 - 5, so it's a good thing the new hiveswap trailer and the new update came (I probs will do that god tier Jade cosplay someday lol).
To be honest what I really liked about the credits is that in the end, the cast still grew up with me. I was really starting to get older than the beta kids, having my 20th b'day not that long and being 4 years older than the kids. So it was really heart warming to see John reach my age since I experienced that not that long ago, and it's good to be the same age as the beta kids again.
And I guess this also confirms that Terezi didn't get left behind and stayed with everyone for awhile before leaving, and that Vriska may have died.
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Post by soeroah on Oct 26, 2016 13:33:05 GMT
Aww, that was neat. Finally some closure on a few things, and a bit of confirmation with the whole Caliborn loop, but also still got some mysteries.
I wonder if that's the end of Homestuck For Reals?
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Post by cookiefonster on Oct 26, 2016 13:47:02 GMT
Aww, that was neat. Finally some closure on a few things, and a bit of confirmation with the whole Caliborn loop, but also still got some mysteries. I wonder if that's the end of Homestuck For Reals? It looks like the animation is leading to something, namely the origin of the kids in Caliborn's Masterpiece. Someone in this thread claimed something was going to happen on Halloween according to a Tumblr post? It's just a rumor but it seems like something that could likely happen.
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Post by soeroah on Oct 26, 2016 13:52:52 GMT
Aww, that was neat. Finally some closure on a few things, and a bit of confirmation with the whole Caliborn loop, but also still got some mysteries. I wonder if that's the end of Homestuck For Reals? It looks like the animation is leading to something, namely the origin of the kids in Caliborn's Masterpiece. Someone in this thread claimed something was going to happen on Halloween according to a Tumblr post? It's just a rumor but it seems like something that could likely happen. Aren't the origins that John from the credits gets his crew together and they go try to beat up Caliborn?
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Post by cookiefonster on Oct 26, 2016 14:17:26 GMT
It looks like the animation is leading to something, namely the origin of the kids in Caliborn's Masterpiece. Someone in this thread claimed something was going to happen on Halloween according to a Tumblr post? It's just a rumor but it seems like something that could likely happen. Aren't the origins that John from the credits gets his crew together and they go try to beat up Caliborn? People think that but I don't think we'll just go without an explicit showing of that happening, plus what happens afterwards plus confirming Roxygen already god dammit.
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 26, 2016 14:43:03 GMT
Aren't the origins that John from the credits gets his crew together and they go try to beat up Caliborn? People think that but I don't think we'll just go without an explicit showing of that happening, plus what happens afterwards plus confirming Roxygen already god dammit. Yeah, smashing the phone could have been a rejection of Caliborn's taunting and refusal to fight him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 14:58:22 GMT
someone on homestuck discord server claimed that it wasn't an epilogue it was MAYBE james roach? ??? idk, i am not following discord that closely except for announcements channel
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 26, 2016 15:03:11 GMT
someone on homestuck discord server claimed that it wasn't an epilogue it was MAYBE james roach? ??? idk, i am not following discord that closely except for announcements channel This was pretty clearly not the Epilogue. Because this is the post-canon content that Hussie mentioned would be coming up soon, as opposed to the epilogue, which will not be here for a good while still.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2016 15:13:56 GMT
someone on homestuck discord server claimed that it wasn't an epilogue it was MAYBE james roach? ??? idk, i am not following discord that closely except for announcements channel This was pretty clearly not the Epilogue. Because this is the post-canon content that Hussie mentioned would be coming up soon, as opposed to the epilogue, which will not be here for a good while still. yeah, i was just commenting on the "end of homestuck for reals" thing we're still in for the ride we always will be there is no escape
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Post by jacquerel on Oct 26, 2016 15:36:47 GMT
I like that after all that, no straight relationships were ever confirmed.
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 26, 2016 15:48:21 GMT
I like that after all that, no straight relationships were ever confirmed. I mean, I'm straight and stuff, but I fully support LGBT+, and I do ship RoseMary and DaveKat, but why the fuck is that a good thing? Actually, the only confirmed ship is RoseMary and for fuck's sake why Hussie?! DaveKat and Roxygen were great! And now you hint at Callixy? Really? CALLIXY?! tl;dr still salty hussie F1X TH1S
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Post by mementovivere on Oct 26, 2016 15:56:28 GMT
Personally I read Roxy/Calliope's relationship as more of a maternal/big sister kind of thing, but it does seem to be left deliberately vague. Most of them are left vague actually--only Rose and Kanaya's relationship seems to be 100% confirmed as romantic, but all the others could potentially be seen as close friendships or something. I do like to think that Jake/Dirk worked things out romantically though, and that Dave/Karkat/Jade have a cute poly thing going on.
The complete lack of Roxygen is interesting though, and it occurred to me that it reminds me a lot of how his relationship with Vriska went. There was a ton of buildup and romantic tension over the course of one eventful day, and while Vriska dying and John being on a ship for 3 years obviously threw a wrench in things, the relationship with ghost John kind of fizzled out on its own too. This time the same basic pattern happened: lots of flirting and romantic subtext with Roxy while they're in the middle of saving the world (so to speak), but in a time of peace John doesn't seem to have much interest in dating.
During Act 6 on the ship, John tells Jade that it's because "romance and dating are dumb and boring. we are legendary heroes, and we have bigger fish to fry..." but now that they no longer have legendary hero things to do, he still doesn't seem any more gung-ho about relationships.
Honestly I wonder if he's just plain asexual/aromantic or something? Or if maybe the idea of being a dashing romantic hero is more appealing to him than the actual mundane realities of civilian life and building connections with someone over time. The main impression I'm getting from John in the credits is that he just plain doesn't know how to handle a "normal" life. That's why I think he is in fact going to go fight Caliborn--he's bored, and after being the "main character" for so long, doesn't know what to do with himself when there isn't legendary hero work to be done.
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Post by tentacleTherapist on Oct 26, 2016 16:05:34 GMT
Honestly I wonder if he's just plain asexual/aromantic or something? Or if maybe the idea of being a dashing romantic hero is more appealing to him than the actual mundane realities of civilian life and building connections with someone over time. The main impression I'm getting from John in the credits is that he just plain doesn't know how to handle a "normal" life. That's why I think he is in fact going to go fight Caliborn--he's bored, and after being the "main character" for so long, doesn't know what to do with himself when there isn't legendary hero work to be done. He reminds me of the Achilles or Odysseus; he hasn't known anything but being the hero for three years now, and he can't return to the past, so he's stuck in limbo between settling down and going out to seize glory again.
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Post by cookiefonster on Oct 26, 2016 16:28:30 GMT
I like that after all that, no straight relationships were ever confirmed. Actually, the only confirmed ship is RoseMary and for fuck's sake why Hussie?! DaveKat and Roxygen were great! And now you hint at Callixy? Really? CALLIXY?! tl;dr still salty hussie F1X TH1STake out "Davekat" and you get my feelings on this exactly. Like what the fuck was Hussie thinking. On the bright side, this gives me something to look forward to in further epilogue content. Also Callixy is a fucking weird ship name.
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 26, 2016 16:39:31 GMT
Actually, the only confirmed ship is RoseMary and for fuck's sake why Hussie?! DaveKat and Roxygen were great! And now you hint at Callixy? Really? CALLIXY?! tl;dr still salty hussie F1X TH1S Also Callixy is a fucking weird ship name.uh... how about Calloxy? Or Calleoxy? Rolliope? Roxliope? Raliope? I thought Callixy sounded good cause... well, I don't know, I honestly haven't seen anyone shipping it, so...
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Post by cookiefonster on Oct 26, 2016 16:49:45 GMT
Also Callixy is a fucking weird ship name. uh... how about Calloxy? Or Calleoxy? Rolliope? Roxliope? Raliope? I thought Callixy sounded good cause... well, I don't know, I honestly haven't seen anyone shipping it, so... Yeah it's weird. I've barely seen anyone ship it either. I'd be salty if it turned out that Roxy/Calliope and black John/Terezi were created just for the sake of ship ambiguity which some think is Hussie's policy in the ending credits (barring Rosemary).
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 26, 2016 16:54:45 GMT
uh... how about Calloxy? Or Calleoxy? Rolliope? Roxliope? Raliope? I thought Callixy sounded good cause... well, I don't know, I honestly haven't seen anyone shipping it, so... Yeah it's weird. I've barely seen anyone ship it either. I'd be salty if it turned out that Roxy/Calliope and black John/Terezi were created just for the sake of ship ambiguity which some think is Hussie's policy in the ending credits (barring Rosemary). Talking about this is pretty cool but I think we have to change the subject. whaddya think hussie's next project will be (i hope he'll make a new one) if he does, i really hope its user suggested
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 26, 2016 16:56:56 GMT
I mean, they are all only twenty, except Calliope, who is seventeen. Maybe they do not all have everything figured out yet? Why is everyone so worried about the romantic relationships of a bunch of barely-adults and a teenager?
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Post by cookiefonster on Oct 26, 2016 17:14:55 GMT
I mean, they are all only twenty, except Calliope, who is seventeen. Maybe they do not all have everything figured out yet? Why is everyone so worried about the romantic relationships of a bunch of barely-adults and a teenager? Because one of those ships had a lot of in-story buildup that's yet to amount to anything definite.
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Post by mementovivere on Oct 26, 2016 17:16:40 GMT
whaddya think hussie's next project will be (i hope he'll make a new one) if he does, i really hope its user suggested Presumably for a while he'll be focused on making all the episodes of Hiveswap, and then all the episodes of Hauntswitch. After that? Maybe more video games from What Pumpkin Studios, maybe some other comics. I don't have a TON of faith that he'll be doing more MSPaint Adventures after constantly one-upping himself in the format, but if he does I personally hope it's something a bit more on the simple, goofy, for-fun side of things along the lines of Jailbreak or Problem Sleuth instead of something as heavily plot-based as Homestuck.
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 26, 2016 17:28:06 GMT
I mean, they are all only twenty, except Calliope, who is seventeen. Maybe they do not all have everything figured out yet? Why is everyone so worried about the romantic relationships of a bunch of barely-adults and a teenager? Because one of those ships had a lot of in-story buildup that's yet to amount to anything definite. They were sixteen years old. How many people do you think end up with the person they flirted with at the age of sixteen?
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 26, 2016 17:31:41 GMT
Because one of those ships had a lot of in-story buildup that's yet to amount to anything definite. They were sixteen years old. How many people do you think end up with the person they flirted with at the age of sixteen? Callie is not confirmed to be 17. While Hussie said 11 units is roughly 13 years, that's probably not how cherubs progress, and she might be anywhere from still 11 to 26 by now depending on cherub age.
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 26, 2016 17:34:54 GMT
They were sixteen years old. How many people do you think end up with the person they flirted with at the age of sixteen? Callie is not confirmed to be 17. While Hussie said 11 units is roughly 13 years, that's probably not how cherubs progress, and she might be anywhere from still 11 to 26 by now depending on cherub age. Eleven units is thirteen years is six sweeps. But that has nothing to do with what I was talking about in the comment you responded to.
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Post by ShadowsSun on Oct 26, 2016 17:40:02 GMT
After that? Maybe more video games from What Pumpkin Studios, maybe some other comics. I don't have a TON of faith that he'll be doing more MSPaint Adventures after constantly one-upping himself in the format, but if he does I personally hope it's something a bit more on the simple, goofy, for-fun side of things along the lines of Jailbreak or Problem Sleuth instead of something as heavily plot-based as Homestuck. >Problem Sleuth >simple I mean, comparatively yes, but... Also, I'm glad that some people do remember me. And it's nice to see that the shipping arguments are still raging on. I don't have much stake in the matter, but I sure like seeing people who do. I'm weird like that. Also, all the arguments about the ending. I'd have thought that almost 6 months of discussion would have mined that out, but then that's just me underestimating Homestuck again isn't it? The current stuff pretty much wraps up all my questions (or enough that I'm happy not having everything answered). Still looking forward to the epilogue coming SoonTM though.
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