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Post by cookiefonster on Nov 12, 2016 2:25:18 GMT
Today's snaps made me realize just how forced Roxy/Calliope actually is. Does any one person here like the way this whole thing was handled?
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Post by TrickleJest on Nov 12, 2016 16:16:17 GMT
Today's snaps made me realize just how forced Roxy/Calliope actually is. Does any one person here like the way this whole thing was handled? You already know what I think, lmao.
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Post by drifloon on Nov 12, 2016 22:19:00 GMT
I think Roxy/Calliope is fine in and of itself (and John/Roxy is massively overrated), but just implying "Yeah, it's a thing now and they are perfectly happy and that is all we need to know about their relationship" without any nuance or buildup is the opposite of interesting or compelling. This is exactly the same problem that everything since Collide has had, though, so I'm not particularly surprised any more. (I'm still bitter about Jake and Dirk's reconciliation being entirely offscreen, myself.)
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Post by cookiefonster on Nov 12, 2016 23:36:36 GMT
I think Roxy/Calliope is fine in and of itself (and John/Roxy is massively overrated), but just implying "Yeah, it's a thing now and they are perfectly happy and that is all we need to know about their relationship" without any nuance or buildup is the opposite of interesting or compelling. This is exactly the same problem that everything since Collide has had, though, so I'm not particularly surprised any more. (I'm still bitter about Jake and Dirk's reconciliation being entirely offscreen, myself.) In and of itself Roxy/Calliope is nowhere near as bad as Davekat because at least they were always friends. But here it's just so terrible for them to be suddenly a thing shoved in our faces.
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Post by archiewhite on Nov 14, 2016 15:24:56 GMT
In and of itself Roxy/Calliope is nowhere near as bad as Davekat because at least they were always friends. But here it's just so terrible for them to be suddenly a thing shoved in our faces. There was a "friendly enemy" dynamic between them that was flipped and explained post-factum, but perhaps you should chill and redirect your salt.
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Post by Pheryx on Nov 14, 2016 23:48:04 GMT
I don't mind Roxy x Calli, but the way people get pissed at johnroxy shippers kinda makes me salty.
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Post by butternutpumpkin on Nov 26, 2016 5:35:46 GMT
lmao i feel like im the only one who likes roxycallie and could see it happening over johnroxy. i dont really know why people didnt see it coming.
But I do really feel for the JohnRoxy fans since seeing the way JohnVris and Karezi got handled made me full of salt. Im still salty about it.
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Post by cookiefonster on Nov 26, 2016 14:04:51 GMT
lmao i feel like im the only one who likes roxycallie and could see it happening over johnroxy. i dont really know why people didnt see it coming. But I do really feel for the JohnRoxy fans since seeing the way JohnVris and Karezi got handled made me full of salt. Im still salty about it. It's just that Roxy's tease with John vastly overpowered her tease with Calliope, in that it didn't require reading much into things to be there.
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Post by mementovivere on Nov 26, 2016 17:20:04 GMT
I dunno, there was a whole conversation between the two of them that amounted to Calliope being like "My species can't experience romantic attraction, BUT I REALLY WISH I COULD AND I SPEND ALL MY TIME FANTASIZING ABOUT ROMANTIC LOVE!" And then towards the end of Act 6 we get a whole conversation between Dave/John/Karkat about how even alien species are "emotionally versatile sentient beings that can feel many hells of different things" and that the biological limitations of romance are not set in stone. That being said--I'm still personally of the opinion that the Roxy/Calliope stuff is intentionally ship-tease-y but nothing definitive. 11/11 was PROBABLY Calliope's birthday celebration, if we're going based off of previous arc number birthday patterns between John being 4/13 and Karkat's being 6/12. Hussie didn't add the John/Roxy hinting for no reason, and I think we will eventually get either delayed fulfillment of it or at the VERY LEAST some kind of on-screen explanation for why it never went anywhere (like we did with John/Vriska). Again, the story is NOT. OVER. YET. I get that people are salty about various elements of the ending we've gotten (so far) but imo Hussie has proven that he's not so bad a writer that he drops major hints like that and then completely abandons them forever. Historically, I've seen many, many, many more cases of readers being really bad at handling delayed payoff
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Post by nakAratoo on Nov 30, 2016 5:56:05 GMT
I thought it wasn't Hussie writing the snaps. Is my info wrong?
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Post by mementovivere on Nov 30, 2016 17:08:55 GMT
I thought it wasn't Hussie writing the snaps. Is my info wrong? Nah, Cohen the creative director of Hiveswap has been writing most of them (aside from the credits). That said, I'd be very surprised if Hussie didn't at least give him some kind of general outline for what should happen... I don't understand the pervasive sentiment that Hussie no longer has any say or investment in Homestuck's content.
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Post by archiewhite on Dec 4, 2016 17:36:46 GMT
May I also point out that Callie cannot go through puberty? She'll be a child til the end of her life, because she cannot predominate naturally - there's no other self of her.
Well played, Cohen. Teasing a pedo ship.
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Post by Sharkalien on Dec 5, 2016 0:33:43 GMT
May I also point out that Callie cannot go through puberty? She'll be a child til the end of her life, because she cannot predominate naturally - there's no other self of her. Well played, Cohen. Teasing a pedo ship. I believe the term is "loli". Fitting, seeing how Homestuck turned into an anime
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