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Post by Gab on Sept 28, 2016 14:26:00 GMT
I know you said "everyone else" but I think as long as Andrew had any ideas for a story with a similar art style, adventure game parody, type of webcomic, he could do another MSPA. The question is whether he wants to do that, or whether the potential for that theme has been tapped out by now.
That said, you make a point in that reader input was a pretty big part of that, and Andrew really wouldn't be able to incorporate that, at least not without a pretty substantial change to the way he accepts commands.
I won't necessarily be sad if this is the last MSPA, if Andrew decides to keep telling more stories in another way. It'd be pretty interesting if he decided to become a game dev :B I don't think it particularly likely for him to stay in that field longer than he has to, though.
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Post by Blaperile on Sept 28, 2016 17:16:27 GMT
I think that, maybe, that changing role of reader input and puzzles and such might be one of a few things that point to it not really being possible for another MS Paint Adventure to ever happen. What does everyone else think about that? I think that if Andrew does ever do another MSPA, direct reader input would be limited to (at most) naming characters. I do doubt he'll ever go back to full reader input like in the early days of Homestuck and especially the way it was in the MSPA's prior to it.
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Post by cookiefonster on Sept 28, 2016 17:39:51 GMT
In my reread, I just watched Prince of Heart: Rise up and god damn Jake's battle with Brobot is more hilarious than I ever remember it being.
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Post by obsidalicious on Sept 28, 2016 21:53:19 GMT
I think that, maybe, that changing role of reader input and puzzles and such might be one of a few things that point to it not really being possible for another MS Paint Adventure to ever happen. What does everyone else think about that? I think that if Andrew does ever do another MSPA, direct reader input would be limited to (at most) naming characters. I do doubt he'll ever go back to full reader input like in the early days of Homestuck and especially the way it was in the MSPA's prior to it. What if his next story had an interactive flash(or html5 thingy) at the start that was actually a full on character creation screen, which fed everyone's creations back to the server and made an amalgamate/average to be the actual canon character?
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Post by imglasses on Sept 28, 2016 22:09:33 GMT
So, are you going to read the weird ones too? Like Homestuck Beta, Ryanquest, and the Vigil Prince? And, like, glance at Blood Spade? I was going to say I didn't really remember how to get to vigil prrince, but you just linked it, so... that one's off the list. I'll check out blood spade and HS beta, I usually do when they come up in the story. For me that is part of the experience. And assuming it's all still intact, I also want to check out all the donation commands. I've made it through Jailbreak and Bard Quest already, and have finished the first chapter of Problem Sleuth so far. I can tell how much my storytelling senses have developed over the years. I sure didn't used to think much about them or how short the first two stories were, now it jumps out at me much more how experimental they really were. And failed experiments, at that. I've also taken note of just how much the quality of the art increases from one story to the next. Don't forget to read Dr. Brinner: Ghost Psychiatrist. It seems like much of the Homestuck community forgets Hussie wrote it, even though it was by far his most famous work before Homestuck.
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Post by Blaperile on Sept 29, 2016 16:26:31 GMT
I was going to say I didn't really remember how to get to vigil prrince, but you just linked it, so... that one's off the list. I'll check out blood spade and HS beta, I usually do when they come up in the story. For me that is part of the experience. And assuming it's all still intact, I also want to check out all the donation commands. I've made it through Jailbreak and Bard Quest already, and have finished the first chapter of Problem Sleuth so far. I can tell how much my storytelling senses have developed over the years. I sure didn't used to think much about them or how short the first two stories were, now it jumps out at me much more how experimental they really were. And failed experiments, at that. I've also taken note of just how much the quality of the art increases from one story to the next. Don't forget to read Dr. Brinner: Ghost Psychiatrist. It seems like much of the Homestuck community forgets Hussie wrote it, even though it was by far his most famous work before Homestuck. I am still waiting for the day PM delivers that letter to Dr. Brinner. That's the most important thing that we should see if the Epilogue happens.
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Post by Gab on Sept 29, 2016 18:32:22 GMT
What if his next story had an interactive flash(or html5 thingy) at the start that was actually a full on character creation screen, which fed everyone's creations back to the server and made an amalgamate/average to be the actual canon character? Cool idea, but most likely the end result would be the most neutral of all possible options, with maybe one or two slight permutations. Assuming about equivalent specialization in every direction, averaging it out would lead to that result. Though I suppose that's not a certainty, it is a possibility.
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Post by Gab on Oct 6, 2016 4:34:30 GMT
Quiet around here. Finished my Problem Sleuth reread finally, that took a little while. As I progressed into the thick of the puzzling convolution, I started to notice just how much Homestuck borrows from its predecessor. A mystical land filled with cute critters who herald the protagonists as chosen heroes, with an enormous repetitive tower bridging it to another realm. For that matter, the ending made me think a lot about Homestuck's ending too. The story of problem sleuth comes to an end when the original objective is accomplished, exiting the office building, regardless of anything else. the original objective of homestuck, arguably, is to play and eventually beat Sburb, and the story ends as that is accomplished with the creation of their genesis frog. In PS, the epilogue gets a sudden art bump, becoming much more colorful. it's pretty short and sparse of words right until the final sendoff. By Andrew's own admission in the final book it basically served as filler while the first pages of Homestuck (the beta) were being made. It makes me think about what kind of content (if any) we'll get for Homestuck's epilogue. Anyway, all that said, time to get started on the meat of MSPA, now with all the others much fresher in my mind Here's hoping I actually manage to make it through to the end this time.
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 6, 2016 15:43:16 GMT
Quiet around here. Finished my Problem Sleuth reread finally, that took a little while. As I progressed into the thick of the puzzling convolution, I started to notice just how much Homestuck borrows from its predecessor. A mystical land filled with cute critters who herald the protagonists as chosen heroes, with an enormous repetitive tower bridging it to another realm. For that matter, the ending made me think a lot about Homestuck's ending too. The story of problem sleuth comes to an end when the original objective is accomplished, exiting the office building, regardless of anything else. the original objective of homestuck, arguably, is to play and eventually beat Sburb, and the story ends as that is accomplished with the creation of their genesis frog. In PS, the epilogue gets a sudden art bump, becoming much more colorful. it's pretty short and sparse of words right until the final sendoff. By Andrew's own admission in the final book it basically served as filler while the first pages of Homestuck (the beta) were being made. It makes me think about what kind of content (if any) we'll get for Homestuck's epilogue. Anyway, all that said, time to get started on the meat of MSPA, now with all the others much fresher in my mind Here's hoping I actually manage to make it through to the end this time. Man, your read-through of all of MSPA sounds really interesting, maybe I should copy you. I remember the first time my brother and I read Problem Sleuth. We had caught up on Homestuck and wanted some more, so we decided to check out Problem Sleuth part way through our read-through, we went on vacation to some national park or another, I forget which. There was no internet in our lodge, only in the lobby visitors' center across the road, and we were not allowed to bring our computers. There was a single computer in said visitors' center, which, while meant for doing business or booking things or looking up schedules, worked perfectly fine. So, every morning, my brother and I would get up, leave the lodge, walk across the street to the visitors' center, get on the computer, and read Problem Sleuth together. There was only one chair, so we had to take turns sitting. Good memories.
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Post by Blaperile on Oct 6, 2016 18:35:10 GMT
In PS, the epilogue gets a sudden art bump, becoming much more colorful. it's pretty short and sparse of words right until the final sendoff. By Andrew's own admission in the final book it basically served as filler while the first pages of Homestuck (the beta) were being made. It makes me think about what kind of content (if any) we'll get for Homestuck's epilogue. Seeing as we don't know yet what Homestuck's epilogue will be like, for now I like to compare Problem Sleuth's epilogue with everything that happened after [S] Collide, with suddenly the shift to giant panels and art bump, and eventually resulting in the GIGANTIC art bump of Act 7.
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Post by Gab on Oct 6, 2016 21:05:08 GMT
Man, your read-through of all of MSPA sounds really interesting, maybe I should copy you. I remember the first time my brother and I read Problem Sleuth. We had caught up on Homestuck and wanted some more, so we decided to check out Problem Sleuth part way through our read-through, we went on vacation to some national park or another, I forget which. There was no internet in our lodge, only in the lobby visitors' center across the road, and we were not allowed to bring our computers. There was a single computer in said visitors' center, which, while meant for doing business or booking things or looking up schedules, worked perfectly fine. So, every morning, my brother and I would get up, leave the lodge, walk across the street to the visitors' center, get on the computer, and read Problem Sleuth together. There was only one chair, so we had to take turns sitting. Good memories. Man, that's pretty memorable. Like I may or may not have said, I came to MSPA for Problem Sleuth first, forced myself to finish the first two stories, and got curious about Homestuck before I finished PS, which is what motivated me to finish PS in the first place. I do have one sort of similar event, it was when Caliborn: Enter came out, I was out at the time staying at a lodge. I did have my laptop, and it happened to be a slow time at the moment. In fact, I was alone in the room. When I checked and saw the update I turned down the lights and plugged in my headphones and saw, well... quite the flash animation. Maybe the unique situation I saw it for the first time in influenced me in deciding it was my favorite flash of all. Seeing as we don't know yet what Homestuck's epilogue will be like, for now I like to compare Problem Sleuth's epilogue with everything that happened after [S] Collide, with suddenly the shift to giant panels and art bump, and eventually resulting in the GIGANTIC art bump of Act 7. Yeah, I thought about that too. They are pretty similar. Though with Homestuck it's more of a "this is it, it's finally happening" kind of moment, where Problem Sleuth has a more "where are they now" vibe. Though it does suggest the epilogue of Homestuck would be somewhat different in style.
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 6, 2016 21:15:02 GMT
I do have one sort of similar event, it was when Caliborn: Enter came out, I was out at the time staying at a lodge. I did have my laptop, and it happened to be a slow time at the moment. In fact, I was alone in the room. When I checked and saw the update I turned down the lights and plugged in my headphones and saw, well... quite the flash animation. Maybe the unique situation I saw it for the first time in influenced me in deciding it was my favorite flash of all. Oh man, cool story! I like sharing these stories of cool memories made by reading MSPA. Also, that is a good flash. I listen to the song all the time.
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 6, 2016 21:55:20 GMT
Hey, there is a new news post. It confirms that the epilogue will come at some point. Also: If you are wondering which of these projects may be related to Homestuck, I did have some "post-canon content" planned for later this month. That is as specific as I can be for now. Tune in here, let's say, a couple weeks from now. ....... Well, see you guys on the Twenty-Fifth.
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Post by cookiefonster on Oct 6, 2016 23:57:03 GMT
I bet the epilogue will be released next 4/13. As for other stuff, I think SBaHJ media is probably the most hype-worthy. As I said on Reddit, I'd much rather have a SBaHJ TV show than a Homestuck TV show.
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Post by InternallyLactiad on Oct 7, 2016 0:00:45 GMT
I posted this on the 2.0 thread but...
The newest update got me super-hyped! Act 1 of Hiveswap is up (A video) and I can't wait for more stuff to come up.
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 7, 2016 9:01:27 GMT
I posted this on the 2.0 thread but... The newest update got me super-hyped! Act 1 of Hiveswap is up (A video) and I can't wait for more stuff to come up. I mean, to clarify, it is not Act 1 of Hiveswap, it is a trailer for Act 1 of Hiveswap, which is a game, or, well, an episode of a game, which is coming out in January.
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Post by The One Guy on Oct 7, 2016 14:17:55 GMT
Also: If you are wondering which of these projects may be related to Homestuck, I did have some "post-canon content" planned for later this month. That is as specific as I can be for now. Tune in here, let's say, a couple weeks from now. ....... Well, see you guys on the Twenty-Fifth. Hmm... would an epilouge really be considered "post-canon?"
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 7, 2016 14:41:07 GMT
Also: ....... Well, see you guys on the Twenty-Fifth. Hmm... would an epilouge really be considered "post-canon?" I am not expecting the epilogue yet, I am just expecting SOMETHING worth talking about here.
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Post by The One Guy on Oct 7, 2016 14:48:09 GMT
Hmm... would an epilouge really be considered "post-canon?" I am not expecting the epilogue yet, I am just expecting SOMETHING worth talking about here. Oh, whoops, I interpreted this part as a continuation of the first line in your post, and didn't actully read the newspost myself either. My bad.
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Post by InternallyLactiad on Oct 7, 2016 16:50:38 GMT
I posted this on the 2.0 thread but... The newest update got me super-hyped! Act 1 of Hiveswap is up (A video) and I can't wait for more stuff to come up. I mean, to clarify, it is not Act 1 of Hiveswap, it is a trailer for Act 1 of Hiveswap, which is a game, or, well, an episode of a game, which is coming out in January. Yeah.. I kinda messed it up.
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Post by Blaperile on Oct 7, 2016 17:39:38 GMT
Ooooh, a new newspost as well! For the first time since 6/12!!! It's great to hear from him again, even if it's just "hey look at this new Hiveswap trailer" (and I wouldn't be surprised if it's just that). Pfff, I thought Andrew was going to make a reference to making a pirouette of the handle or something like that in that first paragraph. Oh boy, there's more!!! Ah, so for the Epilogue he's only been making notes on it. That's good! I'm glad that he revealed that. I know some people believed he was already working hard on it, though I was personally just going for the safest belief that he hadn't done anything yet and was first focusing on his other projects. The fact that he's already done a bit for it AND that he definitely states here that it WILL be gotten around to, satisfies me more than enough. POST-CANON CONTENT FOR LATER THIS MONTH? ? Oh god what? So, something like an Epilogue... but not really an Epilogue? Maybe something like a small "sequel" that takes place on Universe C or something but isn't actually related to our heroes? Maybe something on PXS? Either way, there's pretty much no way "later this month" / "a couple weeks from now" ISN'T going to be 10/25, ahahaha. Oh god this is exciting. Pfff, as soon as I read the first sentence in that third paragraph I just KNEW he was talking about that SBAHJ-related project. Those pictures are even more mysterious and crypticthan the previous one we got. But that exile-like Sweet Bro last tmie did make people theorize a SBAHJ SBURB session... and now we've got a picture of Hella Jeff riding a meteor, something quite some characters have done in SBURB as well. I'm interested to see where this is going! That last picture of Sweet Bro there doesn't help much though. And yeah, I'm not surprised that Andrew's spent some time the past few months doing non-creative work related things. He's just finished his biggest masterpiece so far, he deserves some break! Hehe, I love the reference to that part of the Homestuck 2.0 video where Andrew visits that stable. God I'm so happy with what we got the past two days.
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 7, 2016 17:46:32 GMT
Aaaaaaand it's gone.
Edit: Oh wait, no, it is just, only visible on some pages, for some reason? This is even more confusing, honestly.
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Post by Blaperile on Oct 7, 2016 20:58:23 GMT
I was thinking some more about his phrasing with "post-canon content", and was reminded how Caliborn said that the Masterpiece contained events "long after we had any business watching them". Perhaps those events could be considered as "post-canon content"? I'm pretty curious what Andrew's got in store for us! Well, see you guys on the Twenty-Fifth. My thoughts exactly. Well, unless he's obstructed by something, then it might still be on 11/11. I bet the epilogue will be released next 4/13. When Homestuck had just ended my guess was that 4/13 would be the earliest possible date. Now that Andrew's revealed he's only been making some notes yet and nothing else, and that he still has the same plan of prioritizing his other projects, I personally doubt it will be ready in 6 months from now. I think I'm adjusting my guess to next 10/25 at the earliest now. Aaaaaaand it's gone. Edit: Oh wait, no, it is just, only visible on some pages, for some reason? This is even more confusing, honestly. Probably some kind of caching problem. It's happened to me before with other news posts. EDIT: Ahahaha, appropriate 413th post is appropriate.
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Post by dldracorex on Oct 7, 2016 21:12:20 GMT
I bet the epilogue will be released next 4/13. When Homestuck had just ended my guess was that 4/13 would be the earliest possible date. Now that Andrew's revealed he's only been making some notes yet and nothing else, and that he still has the same plan of prioritizing his other projects, I personally doubt it will be ready in 6 months from now. I think I'm adjusting my guess to next 10/25 at the earliest now. Yeah, or maybe the FOLLOWING Four-Thirteen. Aaaaaaand it's gone. Edit: Oh wait, no, it is just, only visible on some pages, for some reason? This is even more confusing, honestly. Probably some kind of caching problem. It's happened to me before with other news posts. Yeah, it was that. The news post is back, now. EDIT: Ahahaha, appropriate 413th post is appropriate. Lucky! None of mine have ever been any good.
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Post by plainWonder on Oct 7, 2016 21:13:59 GMT
Cool, that newspost. It's nice to read Andrew's familiar meandering discourse.
"unreal stunts on the tenthooks" has potential to be the new "sick beats" or "acrobatic pirouette off the handle".
I am very pleased to hear Andrew's been making notes on the epilogue. Because it means he's been working on it at all, which is more than I could've hoped for.
I wonder what ~other projects~ strike Andrew as more pressing. Assuming Hiveswap, being mentioned first in the newspost, is not one of them... Artistic input to other projects?
He seems to imply the majority of those projects are not related to Homestuck. But I wonder how many are related to What Pumpkin Inc, or the gamedev studios?
"Post-canon content", as a separate entity of the entity, is rather piquing. I wonder if it means new Paradox Space stories, or new We Love Fine merch?
"A couple of weeks from now" of course is 10/25, I mean really. They decided not to hold back the Hiveswap trailer until then, but I'm not taking that to mean that the next revealed thing will trump it in impact and scope.
Yeah I'm not sure what to make of this. Like, is Andrew seriously working on a story of SBaHJ as exiles? It would be funny if it turns out they are B2 Sandler and Wilson, that esaped the Condesce's wrath somehow. Like, say, by being revived as their dreamselves. It would be a way for Donald Glover alias Geromy to survive as well. And given what we saw during Dave and Rose's Jam, they're both Derse dreamers, while Geromy is a Prospit dreamer. That would be an interesting situation, such a dichotomy is unprecedented.
That sneaky reference to the shot of Andrew visiting the stable, heheheh. Only people that have heard about Homestuck's YouTube channel will get that.
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