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Post by SpottedBlades on Aug 4, 2016 13:56:37 GMT
I hope your grandma becomes a great player.
Also, roasting fictional characters is useless. They won't feel shame or guilt or anything, so why bother?
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Post by Blizzriel on Aug 4, 2016 15:22:23 GMT
I hope your grandma becomes a great player. Well, yesterday she won a game without my help, so mission success!
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Post by Arashi500 on Aug 5, 2016 1:35:53 GMT
Some thoughts on the new Steven Universe episodes so far. The recent episodes have touched upon Amethyst's insecurities quite a few times, and it's been nice seeing her open up about and accept her flaws, even if she hasn't done much yet to improve upon them. But since the dialogue in the shorts also feels stilted from time to time, it can a bit hard to tell if there's really been any change in the status quo between Amethyst and Steven, or if they're still building up to it. Bismuth was also great to see, got some extra info on the Crystal Gems during the actual Rebellion, and we get to see a rare imperfection in Rose, in her unwillingness to tell the others about what had happened with Bismuth. Also was cool to see the script flipped from Foe-to-Friend to Friend-to-Foe.
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Post by sigh on Aug 5, 2016 5:37:13 GMT
My favorite part of this latest episode is how it basically spits on the ideology of hating your oppressors to the point that you try to completely destroy them for your cause. So many people actually rock this notion and it's honestly a bit frightening.
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Post by SpottedBlades on Aug 5, 2016 10:13:04 GMT
The latest episode sure was colorful. I don't know why people complain about Bismuth being outright evil. She did the wrong things for a good cause, and her flipping out was understandable. She brings another perspective about the war and about Rose. I don't think she'd have been a good regular character, but it was nice to meet her. Also, she mentioned gems called Crazy Lace and Biggs. And what recently-shown gems did throw the fandom in another gemmology spree? (those doggos will be relevant, I can feel it.)
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Post by aquilus3 on Aug 6, 2016 3:13:54 GMT
I hope your grandma becomes a great player. Also, roasting fictional characters is useless. They won't feel shame or guilt or anything, so why bother? I just love doing it man. I got inspired by a certain dude with no hairline.
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Post by aquilus3 on Aug 6, 2016 3:20:28 GMT
The latest episode sure was colorful. I don't know why people complain about Bismuth being outright evil. She did the wrong things for a good cause, and her flipping out was understandable. She brings another perspective about the war and about Rose. I don't think she'd have been a good regular character, but it was nice to meet her. Also, she mentioned gems called Crazy Lace and Biggs. And what recently-shown gems did throw the fandom in another gemmology spree? (those doggos will be relevant, I can feel it.) To be honest she had a point. You have to be ruthless in war. Your enemies will never fight fair in war, so why should you? Fighting "fair" means you've already lost. When you're taking conditional or in unconditional surrender. All's fair in love in war. Crotch shots, eyes gouging, attacks from the back, kicking em when they're down. I'll admit, in a way they had principle there of not going a rampage and killing every gem on homeworld. But Bismuth had the right idea of making the breaking point to make a point. War is ugly as hell, no matter how its done or why it's fought. The difference is made if you decide if you want to win or want to lose.
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Post by Arashi500 on Aug 6, 2016 11:08:23 GMT
The latest episode sure was colorful. I don't know why people complain about Bismuth being outright evil. She did the wrong things for a good cause, and her flipping out was understandable. She brings another perspective about the war and about Rose. I don't think she'd have been a good regular character, but it was nice to meet her. Also, she mentioned gems called Crazy Lace and Biggs. And what recently-shown gems did throw the fandom in another gemmology spree? (those doggos will be relevant, I can feel it.) To be honest she had a point. You have to be ruthless in war. Your enemies will never fight fair in war, so why should you? Fighting "fair" means you've already lost. When you're taking conditional or in unconditional surrender. All's fair in love in war. Crotch shots, eyes gouging, attacks from the back, kicking em when they're down. I'll admit, in a way they had principle there of not going a rampage and killing every gem on homeworld. But Bismuth had the right idea of making the breaking point to make a point. War is ugly as hell, no matter how its done or why it's fought. The difference is made if you decide if you want to win or want to lose. Maybe in a purely militaristic war sure, but Rose's Rebellion is as much if not more so an idealogical war, and even if it wasn't I'm not quite sure that same logic applies to Gems in the way it does us humans. Gems, unlike humans, are just as, if not more easily incapacitated than outright shattered. It would not only be hypocritical to Rose's message of redemption and forgiveness to all who seek it if the Crystal Gems started shattering their enemies, but counter-productive as well in that it would decrease their opportunities to convert Homeworld-aligned Gems. They'd be taking that chance to choose another way for themselves away from an army comprised mostly of lower to middle class soldiers, while the "upper crusts" that Bismuth truly wants to use the Breaking Point on would almost never see the battlefield, staying safe on Homeworld as they've been shown to. Also, who here thinks the pilot that Bismuth was talking about when regaling with Pearl and Garnet about the war was the Gem that would become Centipeetle?
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Post by aquilus3 on Aug 6, 2016 11:33:17 GMT
To be honest she had a point. You have to be ruthless in war. Your enemies will never fight fair in war, so why should you? Fighting "fair" means you've already lost. When you're taking conditional or in unconditional surrender. All's fair in love in war. Crotch shots, eyes gouging, attacks from the back, kicking em when they're down. I'll admit, in a way they had principle there of not going a rampage and killing every gem on homeworld. But Bismuth had the right idea of making the breaking point to make a point. War is ugly as hell, no matter how its done or why it's fought. The difference is made if you decide if you want to win or want to lose. Maybe in a purely militaristic war sure, but Rose's Rebellion is as much if not more so an idealogical war, and even if it wasn't I'm not quite sure that same logic applies to Gems in the way it does us humans. Gems, unlike humans, are just as, if not more easily incapacitated than outright shattered. It would not only be hypocritical to Rose's message of redemption and forgiveness to all who seek it if the Crystal Gems started shattering their enemies, but counter-productive as well in that it would decrease their opportunities to convert Homeworld-aligned Gems. They'd be taking that chance to choose another way for themselves away from an army comprised mostly of lower to middle class soldiers, while the "upper crusts" that Bismuth truly wants to use the Breaking Point on would almost never see the battlefield, staying safe on Homeworld as they've been shown to. Also, who here thinks the pilot that Bismuth was talking about when regaling with Pearl and Garnet about the war was the Gem that would become Centipeetle? I think so in a way. Well when you put it like that it makes sense in some regards. But what's the guarantee that incapacitated gems won't come back with a vengeance or that they'll even reconsider alliances?
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Post by Arashi500 on Aug 6, 2016 12:16:55 GMT
Maybe in a purely militaristic war sure, but Rose's Rebellion is as much if not more so an idealogical war, and even if it wasn't I'm not quite sure that same logic applies to Gems in the way it does us humans. Gems, unlike humans, are just as, if not more easily incapacitated than outright shattered. It would not only be hypocritical to Rose's message of redemption and forgiveness to all who seek it if the Crystal Gems started shattering their enemies, but counter-productive as well in that it would decrease their opportunities to convert Homeworld-aligned Gems. They'd be taking that chance to choose another way for themselves away from an army comprised mostly of lower to middle class soldiers, while the "upper crusts" that Bismuth truly wants to use the Breaking Point on would almost never see the battlefield, staying safe on Homeworld as they've been shown to. Also, who here thinks the pilot that Bismuth was talking about when regaling with Pearl and Garnet about the war was the Gem that would become Centipeetle? I think so in a way. Well when you put it like that it makes sense in some regards. But what's the guarantee that incapacitated gems won't come back with a vengeance or that they'll even reconsider alliances? There isn't a guarantee, and if they insist on aligning with Homeworld after having been given a proper chance then Rose might have been more okay with the idea of shattering them. But either way they could still just as easily poof and then bubble them away indefinitely, in an essentially comatose state. And holy hell did "Beta" end abruptly.
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Post by aquilus3 on Aug 6, 2016 19:28:27 GMT
I think so in a way. Well when you put it like that it makes sense in some regards. But what's the guarantee that incapacitated gems won't come back with a vengeance or that they'll even reconsider alliances? There isn't a guarantee, and if they insist on aligning with Homeworld after having been given a proper chance then Rose might have been more okay with the idea of shattering them. But either way they could still just as easily poof and then bubble them away indefinitely, in an essentially comatose state. And holy hell did "Beta" end abruptly. And there's always a chance Homeworld gems may find them and unleash them once again. Assuming the Crystal Gems can keep them away from Rebel HQ.
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Post by sigh on Aug 6, 2016 22:25:14 GMT
It's funny you guys bring that up, I just saw a screencap of someone talking about just that:
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Post by aquilus3 on Aug 7, 2016 0:41:33 GMT
^^Damn dude. You just made the best point I've ever seen. My only issue with it would be if the Homeworld came to Earth. Independence Day Resurgence style and proceeded to knock the living fuck out of all Earth defenses. Crystal Gem and human defenses. I'm sure in the moment humans wouldn't really be sparing gems death. At that point it's an all out war. And I'm sure sparing or incapacitating would be the last thing on anyone's mind. You can't really jail and imprison 5 million plus gem homeworlders. Waste of funds and space. My point there being you can't play defense the entire war. That doesn't win it or make a point. I'd at least hope the homeworld gems would realize the Earth campaign is a waste of money and resources and that they'd just leave Earth alone and gems wake up and see what Rose did. The gem empire will probably collapse due to an insurrection on homeworld. Soon you'd have to take the war to them if they don't back down.
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Post by Arashi500 on Aug 7, 2016 2:02:21 GMT
^^Damn dude. You just made the best point I've ever seen. My only issue with it would be if the Homeworld came to Earth. Independence Day Resurgence style and proceeded to knock the living fuck out of all Earth defenses. Crystal Gem and human defenses. I'm sure in the moment humans wouldn't really be sparing gems death. At that point it's an all out war. And I'm sure sparing or incapacitating would be the last thing on anyone's mind. You can't really jail and imprison 5 million plus gem homeworlders. Waste of funds and space. My point there being you can't play defense the entire war. That doesn't win it or make a point. I'd at least hope the homeworld gems would realize the Earth campaign is a waste of money and resources and that they'd just leave Earth alone and gems wake up and see what Rose did. The gem empire will probably collapse due to an insurrection on homeworld. Soon you'd have to take the war to them if they don't back down. While I'm sure there would be humans who would take Bismuth's approach, it still seems like it would take more time and effort to target and shatter Homeworld Gems than it would to simply damage their physical form to the point of poofing. It's not like they need to feed or even really maintain poofed and bubbled enemy Gems, they just need a big enough place to put them all. But you're right, if they were without bubbling and teleporting powers, shattering would be the optimal way to to ensure they don't reform on the battlefield. Although even then, the shards will just form into more zombie-like enemies. Gems just can't really "die" the way humans do, at least not through any form of combat we've been shown. Rose turning into/giving birth to Steven is the closest we've seen any Gem come to actually dying a mortal death. Poofing them renders them essentially comatose until they reform, while shattering them just breaks their consciousness into incomplete entities.
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Post by aquilus3 on Aug 7, 2016 13:35:16 GMT
^^Damn dude. You just made the best point I've ever seen. My only issue with it would be if the Homeworld came to Earth. Independence Day Resurgence style and proceeded to knock the living fuck out of all Earth defenses. Crystal Gem and human defenses. I'm sure in the moment humans wouldn't really be sparing gems death. At that point it's an all out war. And I'm sure sparing or incapacitating would be the last thing on anyone's mind. You can't really jail and imprison 5 million plus gem homeworlders. Waste of funds and space. My point there being you can't play defense the entire war. That doesn't win it or make a point. I'd at least hope the homeworld gems would realize the Earth campaign is a waste of money and resources and that they'd just leave Earth alone and gems wake up and see what Rose did. The gem empire will probably collapse due to an insurrection on homeworld. Soon you'd have to take the war to them if they don't back down. While I'm sure there would be humans who would take Bismuth's approach, it still seems like it would take more time and effort to target and shatter Homeworld Gems than it would to simply damage their physical form to the point of poofing. It's not like they need to feed or even really maintain poofed and bubbled enemy Gems, they just need a big enough place to put them all. But you're right, if they were without bubbling and teleporting powers, shattering would be the optimal way to to ensure they don't reform on the battlefield. Although even then, the shards will just form into more zombie-like enemies. Gems just can't really "die" the way humans do, at least not through any form of combat we've been shown. Rose turning into/giving birth to Steven is the closest we've seen any Gem come to actually dying a mortal death. Poofing them renders them essentially comatose until they reform, while shattering them just breaks their consciousness into incomplete entities. Hmm. In a case like that shards will be all that's left and likely they'd have special task forces out there to recover the shards. Likely they'd study them, their properties, and maybe try to refine them.
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Post by sigh on Aug 7, 2016 21:45:56 GMT
I'd imagine the only "true" way to kill a gem to the point where it doesn't even have shards left is to either dunk it in lava, for those who aren't immune to that sort of thing, or grind them to a powder, which takes a lot of time and effort and probably would be reserved for the "worst of the worst". After all, if you recall Peridot had a small freakout when she saw the bubble room, thinking that the CG were going to "harvest" her.
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Post by Arashi500 on Aug 7, 2016 23:41:32 GMT
While I'm sure there would be humans who would take Bismuth's approach, it still seems like it would take more time and effort to target and shatter Homeworld Gems than it would to simply damage their physical form to the point of poofing. It's not like they need to feed or even really maintain poofed and bubbled enemy Gems, they just need a big enough place to put them all. But you're right, if they were without bubbling and teleporting powers, shattering would be the optimal way to to ensure they don't reform on the battlefield. Although even then, the shards will just form into more zombie-like enemies. Gems just can't really "die" the way humans do, at least not through any form of combat we've been shown. Rose turning into/giving birth to Steven is the closest we've seen any Gem come to actually dying a mortal death. Poofing them renders them essentially comatose until they reform, while shattering them just breaks their consciousness into incomplete entities. Hmm. In a case like that shards will be all that's left and likely they'd have special task forces out there to recover the shards. Likely they'd study them, their properties, and maybe try to refine them. That would actually be really neat to see, like a Men In Black organization but specifically for Gems. I'd imagine the only "true" way to kill a gem to the point where it doesn't even have shards left is to either dunk it in lava, for those who aren't immune to that sort of thing, or grind them to a powder, which takes a lot of time and effort and probably would be reserved for the "worst of the worst". After all, if you recall Peridot had a small freakout when she saw the bubble room, thinking that the CG were going to "harvest" her. I would imagine so, yes. But even then, what if the dust particles were able to reform into sentient giblets, just like smaller and smaller shards? I wonder if there's a point where a Gem's gem fragment becomes too small to hold a conscience?
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Post by aquilus3 on Aug 8, 2016 1:36:39 GMT
Hmm. In a case like that shards will be all that's left and likely they'd have special task forces out there to recover the shards. Likely they'd study them, their properties, and maybe try to refine them. That would actually be really neat to see, like a Men In Black organization but specifically for Gems. I'd imagine the only "true" way to kill a gem to the point where it doesn't even have shards left is to either dunk it in lava, for those who aren't immune to that sort of thing, or grind them to a powder, which takes a lot of time and effort and probably would be reserved for the "worst of the worst". After all, if you recall Peridot had a small freakout when she saw the bubble room, thinking that the CG were going to "harvest" her. I would imagine so, yes. But even then, what if the dust particles were able to reform into sentient giblets, just like smaller and smaller shards? I wonder if there's a point where a Gem's gem fragment becomes too small to hold a conscience? in that case. You might wanna Kamehameha asses and burn them away at the molecular level.
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Post by SpottedBlades on Aug 8, 2016 10:23:34 GMT
I love how a children's cartoon suddenly gets themes of war, trauma and violent retaliation. Meanwhile, still waiting for My Little Pony to come back.
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Post by sigh on Aug 8, 2016 18:09:52 GMT
It's been back for a couple of weeks now, you might want to check EQD to see them.
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Post by Wesley Foxx on Aug 11, 2016 17:27:30 GMT
So Goblins! just updated.
Holy shit.
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Post by therationaldove on Aug 11, 2016 22:34:45 GMT
Some media things:
-Just finished my review of Danganronpa 2 on my review thread. It's a good game and I enjoyed it a lot. -My friend showed me Miraculous Ladybug, which is a show I never thought I would enjoy as much as I do. -I have found a great site, called Town of Salem, which is basically an online version of Mafia.
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Post by Neptz on Aug 11, 2016 22:35:46 GMT
Some media things: -Just finished my review of Danganronpa 2 on my review thread. It's a good game and I enjoyed it a lot. -My friend showed me Miraculous Ladybug, which is a show I never thought I would enjoy as much as I do. -I have found a great site, called Town of Salem, which is basically an online version of Mafia. There's also epicmafia.net, which is mafia but with a weird community and a bunch of interesting roles.
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Post by imglasses on Aug 12, 2016 1:20:26 GMT
Some media things: -Just finished my review of Danganronpa 2 on my review thread. It's a good game and I enjoyed it a lot. -My friend showed me Miraculous Ladybug, which is a show I never thought I would enjoy as much as I do. -I have found a great site, called Town of Salem, which is basically an online version of Mafia. There's also epicmafia.net, which is mafia but with a weird community and a bunch of interesting roles. I've been banned from EpicMafia like 10 times Also I met my best friend there
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Post by Neptz on Aug 12, 2016 15:30:45 GMT
play in sandbox you huge nerd
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