Pose/Post as a Team, Cause Shit's About To Get Real

Fucking AWESOME update, once again. I definitely didn't expect to see Lord English yet before the next update, and seeing Caliborn and Yaldabaoth was also a very pleasant surprise!

I'd been hoping for their fight to be shown, and it looks like that's been solidified now!

My reaction's over here.

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I talked about this in my reaction linked above as well, but I think it's worth putting here too:

I’ve been thinking a bit more about Lord English’s role in the story and I just realized something. All this time Lord English has been destroying Doomed timeline copies of the humans and Trolls we know. Many people have said that this doesn’t make Lord English a very good villain, because he’s just destroying doomed selves and not actually any Alpha versions of the people we know. I always thought it was still scary enough to think of Lord English as a terrifying omnipresent villain.

But what Davepetasprite^2 recently said is puttings things in an entirely different perspective. They told us/Jade about how all your experiences in all those different timelines are so important, because of how they contribute to your ideal self. Everything you go through, no matter in what timeline, it is important.

But with Lord English destroying these bubbles and these ghosts, he’s effectively DESTROYING ghosts, permanently erasing them from existence. He’s erasing the experiences of these people, all the good and bad things they’ve gone through. He’s erasing their stories, as if they never happened. So that they stop contributing to the “ultimate self” of these people.

This just makes Lord English a whole lot more terrifying and even more appropriate for this story. He truly IS the most important big bad in this story. All those other villains we know of, no matter how terrifying they are, they’ve always just been killing certain versions of the characters. But this just resulted in them going to the Dreambubbles, they still kept on existing. But it’s LORD ENGLISH that is effectively double-killing them, erasing them from existence, on a way bigger scale than any of the other villains.

Holy shit Homestuck is so great.

That is actually a very huge revelation, and a terrifying one at that. Damn.

Hello everyone, and thanks Blaperile for these replacement forums BTW, does anyone know what happened to the official forums? It's indeed a very odd coincidence for them to go down exactly when the Omegapause ends and Homestuck resumes after months of hyatus!

Anyway, a little thing I noticed in today's update which seems quite odd to me: according to the page names, we are still in Act 6 Act 6 Intermission 5... but starting here, we are seeing Caliborn! Until now, he only appeared in Act 6 Act 6 Acts, while the various Act 6 Act 6 Intermissions were used to follow the actual story. So, from this page onwards, we should be in Act 6 Act 6 Act 6, not in Act 6 Act 6 Intermission 5. Also, it makes sense to actually enter A6A6A6, before the End Of Act 6 which is scheduled after the next update; it doesn't make sense to go on with A6A6I5 and then suddenly meet EOA6, skipping A6A6A6 proper.

Is this a refuse form AH? Did he get page names wrong? Are we already in A6A6A6? Does it actually exist?!?

But this wouldn't match the schedule AH posted:



Only the END OF ACT 6 animation, nothing else. So, if A6A6A6 is going to appear (and it really should...), it has to do so in the next update, otherwise we would reach EOA6 directly from A6A6I5, skipping A6A6A6 altogether.

Also, from a story perspective, it doesn't make sense for Caliborn to appear in an Intermission... In A6A6, Caliborn's section have always been Acts, while the rest of the story has been told in Intermissions, to reflect how Caliborn has taken control of the story and all other characters have been relegated to nuisances (at least, from Caliborn's point of view).

Either AH screwed up the page naming, or something really strange is going on...

Well, isn't overthinking every small detail exactly what Homestuck fandom is really about?

Anyway, a possible solution would be for the EOA6 animation to be built like |S| Game Over, which mixed parts of A6A6A6 and A6A6I3; however, in that case the Caliborn panels leading to the animation (starting here) were actually labeled A6A6A3, and also they had Caliborn's trademark green page layout; here, instead, we are seeing Caliborn confronting Yaldabaoth, however panels are still using the default layout, and they are still labeled A6A6I5.

This really doesn't look right: it doesn't match how the story has been told until now, and also it doesn't leave enough space for A6A6A6, unless it gets crammed in the next update before EOA6 (but then, again: if Acts follow Caliborn and Intermissions follow other characters, we should already have switched to A6A6A6).

I think that, given how big Act 6 is, EoA will be the "size" of subact itself (aka A666).

SWEET CATCH!
Heh, Altiope (is that what we called her on the MSPA forums?) would be a force to be reckoned with if that's indeed what she's up to. I can't help but think that a fight between the two might end up being highly destructive to Paradox Space, though.

Also, probably silly question: Why exactly did Jade not go grimbark immediately upon waking up? It's been a while since I read the pre-Omegapause updates but I didn't think Condy needed to be constantly concentrating on keeping Jade under her control. Kinda thought it was a one-time deal where it 'sticks' once it starts (sorta like the tiaratop).
In any case, fingers crossed that the Condesce stays distracted enough to not re-control Jade. :U

Personally, I think that A666 is going to be the EOA6 flash, since A666 is the end of Act 6 Act 6 and Act 6 proper. There is also the nebulousness of the 40 pages after the flash, which may be within Act666, or they could be labelled as Intermission 3, in the same way the LE flash was labeled as Intermission 2, but I also think that was because it was related more to the Midnight Crew than anything else.

INTENSE!!!!!
so a no-go on that eye-less caliborn theory, then.
anddd yeah... 4 days of pause. need to acquire a webcam to record a reaction video. need to focus on homework before the Very End hits...

Holy shit, shit's getting SO REAL RIGHT NOW. I am so fucking ready for the endgame to begin.

This is fucking awesome. So many epic panels, so much good avatar material too.

Full reaction over here



Oh man I didn't even notice Jane's absense just now.

Huh.

That's pretty funny, seeing as she was just there last time we looked at Derse.

How did it take me the whole week to find this site?

The act structure is the weirdest thing about this ending. First, there is no mention of A666. Second, it's not made clear whether those 40 pages are actually part of Act 6 or Act 7. Heck, it seems Act 7 could actually include the climax of the story, and not be the epilogue, which would go against Hussie's initial prediction, but it makes some sense since he said there would be a series of flashes, and this EOA6 Flash + Epilogue structure doesn't fit with that either.

Hussie is hiding something from us.