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Post by continuityofficer on Jun 11, 2016 13:24:24 GMT
on the topic of the format. Have you guys ever heard of the first book that was ever written? The main character died half way through, and there was a chapter with no words in it at all. The author was much more willing to experiment with the format they created, in an ironically post-modern kind of way.
While Homestuck is certainly not the first forum adventure, it popularized the format and most of the first books where similarly post-modern-eske.
Do you think that this format, if it lives (Which personally, I think it will, but thats another discussion piece), will become less and less of the very experimental thing it is now?
I mean, i've seen some forum adventure's do some crazy stuff by taking advantage of what you can do in this format, I would hate for it to become slowly more derivitive.
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Post by Arashi500 on Jun 11, 2016 16:39:48 GMT
on the topic of the format. Have you guys ever heard of the first book that was ever written? The main character died half way through, and there was a chapter with no words in it at all. The author was much more willing to experiment with the format they created, in an ironically post-modern kind of way. While Homestuck is certainly not the first forum adventure, it popularized the format and most of the first books where similarly post-modern-eske. Do you think that this format, if it lives (Which personally, I think it will, but thats another discussion piece), will become less and less of the very experimental thing it is now? I mean, i've seen some forum adventure's do some crazy stuff by taking advantage of what you can do in this format, I would hate for it to become slowly more derivitive. Well, considering there's only so many new things that can be done for the first time, they could very well dry up (at least the feasible things will). But I think that's putting too much stock into originality for originality's sake to say that the medium would be all the lesser for it. Once something has been done and shown off, it can still be further refined, which while derivitive, is just as exciting IMO. So I don't think the forum adventure/adventure comic medium is at much risk there.
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Post by Neptz on Jun 11, 2016 16:42:21 GMT
at one point in the future all things that could have been done in a medium without the aid of technology would have been done
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Post by thedude3445 on Jun 11, 2016 17:33:01 GMT
OK. Might as well try. Ideally, I need some stuff that isn't too imposing as a song, and that its easy to concentrate on reading while listening too. It should probably have a bit of a quirky, mysterious and somewhat mystic tone to it. Some example's that i'm using already: XX
Ideally, I want to find something fitting with the separate theme's of each character too, while keeping up that motif, as the one's i'm using so far are being used as generic songs. But I don't particularly need those. EDIT: also, its notable that have asked permission to the LOFAM songs before, and they said yes to them. (too lazy to give direct links, google the names plus homestuck and you'll probably get all of them) The fanmusician Trogg would be great for the type of stuff you're going for, but he is notoriously impossible to contact so tough luck there. As for official Homestuck music that's pretty atmospheric, there isn't a huge amount, but there's some: -The entire album Medium is pretty mysterious and slow; Myststuck used the song Rain, so it's already been proven. -The Deeper You Go on Mobius Trip and Hadron Kaleido might fit, though it's a little bit upbeat. -Endless Expanse on The Wanderers, as well as Aimless Morning Gold and Ruins Rising. -Frog Hunt on Volume 8, though that specifically has frogs in it so probably doesn't work too well. -On Volume 5, depending on the mood, White, Skaian Ride, Crystalanthemums, and Clockwork Contrivance might work. for Homestuck-related tracks: -Laughing Forest on Bowman's album Ithaca might be good. -The entire album for Veritas Unae's album element would work. There's probably more than this, too. Homestuck's soundtrack is way too big.
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Post by continuityofficer on Jun 12, 2016 0:58:14 GMT
on the topic of the format. Have you guys ever heard of the first book that was ever written? The main character died half way through, and there was a chapter with no words in it at all. The author was much more willing to experiment with the format they created, in an ironically post-modern kind of way. While Homestuck is certainly not the first forum adventure, it popularized the format and most of the first books where similarly post-modern-eske. Do you think that this format, if it lives (Which personally, I think it will, but thats another discussion piece), will become less and less of the very experimental thing it is now? I mean, i've seen some forum adventure's do some crazy stuff by taking advantage of what you can do in this format, I would hate for it to become slowly more derivitive. Well, considering there's only so many new things that can be done for the first time, they could very well dry up (at least the feasible things will). But I think that's putting too much stock into originality for originality's sake to say that the medium would be all the lesser for it. Once something has been done and shown off, it can still be further refined, which while derivitive, is just as exciting IMO. So I don't think the forum adventure/adventure comic medium is at much risk there. True. I just hope that we keep some of the fun more experimental stuff that can't really be done in other mediums, and don't just become panels with words under it, with the occasional animation.
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Post by Neptz on Jun 12, 2016 1:02:13 GMT
Like I said, eventually nothing will really be original anymore. I'd say don't really worry about it. Original stuff isn't the only thing that can capture a audience. Edit: Heck, some of the most influential works probably aren't all that original, and the very first works could have been based on real life events or other non-media things.
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Post by continuityofficer on Jun 12, 2016 1:35:07 GMT
Like I said, eventually nothing will really be original anymore. I'd say don't really worry about it. Original stuff isn't the only thing that can capture a audience. Edit: Heck, some of the most influential works probably aren't all that original, and the very first works could have been based on real life events or other non-media things. True. But I mean mainly in the way that the story is told. We don't see many books now a days doing a chapter with no words or images, and I would be sad if we stopped doing things like how hussie used the banner to tell 2 stories at once. At the same time, im sure by that point we'll have a new medium to experiment with.
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Post by Neptz on Jun 12, 2016 1:42:11 GMT
Like I said, eventually nothing will really be original anymore. I'd say don't really worry about it. Original stuff isn't the only thing that can capture a audience. Edit: Heck, some of the most influential works probably aren't all that original, and the very first works could have been based on real life events or other non-media things. True. But I mean mainly in the way that the story is told. We don't see many books now a days doing a chapter with no words or images, and I would be sad if we stopped doing things like how hussie used the banner to tell 2 stories at once. At the same time, im sure by that point we'll have a new medium to experiment with. We'll definitely have new mediums as technology evolves.
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Post by Arashi500 on Jun 12, 2016 2:19:36 GMT
Like I said, eventually nothing will really be original anymore. I'd say don't really worry about it. Original stuff isn't the only thing that can capture a audience. Edit: Heck, some of the most influential works probably aren't all that original, and the very first works could have been based on real life events or other non-media things. True. But I mean mainly in the way that the story is told. We don't see many books now a days doing a chapter with no words or images, and I would be sad if we stopped doing things like how hussie used the banner to tell 2 stories at once. At the same time, im sure by that point we'll have a new medium to experiment with. I think I get what you mean. I think it's prolly pretty limited to whatever the host-site can handle I suppose. Since most adventure comics are hosted on forums, they'd be limited to what the forum itself is able to do. But if you look at something like Prequel, once you've got your own site, you can start doing things like adding in games and other interactive bits, as well as play around with the page layout.
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Post by hargleblargleboo on Jun 12, 2016 6:39:00 GMT
I'm sure things will pick up sometime in June. They usually do around that time. Maybe on the 12th when people talk about how absolutely nothing substantial is happening that day. I stand corrected...
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Post by continuityofficer on Jun 12, 2016 7:12:03 GMT
I'm sure things will pick up sometime in June. They usually do around that time. Maybe on the 12th when people talk about how absolutely nothing substantial is happening that day. I stand corrected... Seriously though, if this wasn't released I would have been incredibly surprised if Hussie didn't at least do a new post about HiveSwap and the -if any- progress on the epilouge
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Post by unorthodoxdilemma on Jun 12, 2016 21:40:40 GMT
I've been thinking about starting an adventure, and I've done a couple before (The most popular one was called Dungeon Quest but not many people read it even then) but eventually they just slowed down to a halt, and none of them were forum based. I'm not sure if I should just wait until the official forums come back up, as I heard they're coming back. Is it worth starting a fan adventure?
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Post by Sharkalien on Jun 12, 2016 21:44:22 GMT
Since the new forums won't be up for a GOOD while, then yeah, go for it!
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Post by Sharkalien on Jun 13, 2016 17:27:29 GMT
So I updated the mirror for Househeld a month ago, but it's an incomplete update. I didn't want to post it here on the forum until it was ready. I'm just curious what you guys think of it so far, and what could be changed before I "officially" release it
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Post by Neptz on Jun 13, 2016 19:33:59 GMT
You better make a MEGASHIT that crushes that poor toilet later on, young man. Even if not, I'll make him do enough dumb stuff that it'll happen.
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Post by Sharkalien on Jun 13, 2016 19:40:22 GMT
You better make a MEGASHIT that crushes that poor toilet later on, young man. Even if not, I'll make him do enough dumb stuff that it'll happen. A MEGASHIT will merely clog the toilet Into oblivion
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 22:11:46 GMT
Somebody bully me into updating Oceanfalls
I have a major artblock right now blaaargh I can't even hold the tablet pen right
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Post by Neptz on Jun 13, 2016 23:25:55 GMT
Somebody bully me into updating Oceanfalls I have a major artblock right now blaaargh I can't even hold the tablet pen right but... your art... i love it
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Post by thedude3445 on Jun 13, 2016 23:38:01 GMT
Somebody bully me into updating Oceanfalls I have a major artblock right now blaaargh I can't even hold the tablet pen right update oceanfalls or else
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Post by hargleblargleboo on Jun 14, 2016 0:23:58 GMT
Somebody bully me into updating Oceanfalls I have a major artblock right now blaaargh I can't even hold the tablet pen right Do art, or be punished by this lumpy guy with a baby hammer that I drew in MS Paint.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 3:09:08 GMT
Somebody bully me into updating Oceanfalls I have a major artblock right now blaaargh I can't even hold the tablet pen right Do art, or be punished by this lumpy guy with a baby hammer that I drew in MS Paint.i love him he is my hero How do you guys motivate yourself enough to work on your stuff? I really need help with that ;_;
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Post by quixoticTokki on Jun 14, 2016 3:25:26 GMT
motivation is a weird thing, and if anyone knows how to keep it high i'd love to know lol.
hopefully i'll be able to get to 13:00 in the next couple days, as a number of things have kept me from doing that recently.
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Post by continuityofficer on Jun 14, 2016 6:38:57 GMT
Somebody bully me into updating Oceanfalls I have a major artblock right now blaaargh I can't even hold the tablet pen right I think an important thing to recognise for motivation is that you dont need to jump to it right away. I personally like to listen to a podcast or youtube video about creation, or read some recent posts, and I find that motivates me.
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Post by Arashi500 on Jun 14, 2016 8:26:50 GMT
Well my adventure Rootborn is partially an exercise in getting myself to work in spite of motivation, so maybe I can help a bit.
There's a lotta ways to go about kicking yourself into gear, unfortunately none of them are really cure-alls. So I recommend just surrounding yourself with some things that typically get you creatively energized, and just bombarding yourself with them. You'll either strike upon inspriation and find a muse, or annoy yourself into doing the work just to stop bombarding yourself with it all. Remember, however old you think you'll be if you do the work and make the thing, you'll still be that age by then even if you don't do the work and make the thing. But then you won't have another piece in your portfolio to point to and say "I did that." if you don't. Drown yourself in addages and proverbs to this effect and learn to force creativity without inspiration, and you'll be on the track to greatness. Plus, if you practice your skills when you're unmotivated, you'll be that much better for when you actually are motivated. Don't let yourself be bound to your muse's schedule.
Hope any of that disparate rambling helps in some small way. Good luck!
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Post by spacedwarfindustries on Jun 14, 2016 10:08:22 GMT
I keep myself motivated by keeping the adventure plan malleable, so if I suddenly decide I want to draw a killer robot there can damn well be a killer robot.
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