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Post by obsidalicious on Aug 15, 2016 22:26:16 GMT
I see shards of the collapsing Dream Bubbles being pulled into the glowing accretion disc of the Black Hole. The accretion disc is the material being pulled into a black hole, though. Why is the disc glowing white when it's sucking in the apparently black material of the dreambubbles? What is being accreted? Why is Aradia able to float inside it? And why can we see the shards at all, if they're becoming part of the accretion disc? I think it actually is a hole in reality. The glow could be there for a number of reasons. A) Some of the Green Sun's material is likely still in it, which certainly glows. B) In real black holes, the strong gravitational forces and frictional forces would heat up the material as it spirals towards the event horizon C) Whatever material Dream Bubbles are made of is certainly an unconventional one, who knows what weird properties pure psychic firmament does when it's being shredded like that. And we can see some of the shards still, because they haven't yet gotten to the seething hot mass of the disc yet. Aradia wasn't in the accretion disc, she was hovering above it, at a range where she felt some pull, but not enough to be inescapable. |
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Post by Gab on Aug 16, 2016 2:59:27 GMT
We see what the black hole's accretion disc looks like. It looks green, and disc shaped. Then, the size of the hole dramatically increases, along with the bright glowing area, which looks much more like a spherical field instead of a disc. We can clearly see chips of black flying into it constantly from all angles, and have never seen a dream bubble closer to the green sun than the cracks. In fact, aside from where English and the army are standing, we don't see any hint of a dream bubble at all.
Combined with the fact that the area is cracking up worse than ever, and said cracks are explicitly shown and mentioned to exist beyond dream bubbles and have effects on the void in their own right, I have to wonder why you find this the harder conclusion to come to. You have to be reaching to explain away the imagery we're given.
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Post by staircaseofkneecaps on Aug 19, 2016 0:45:49 GMT
For what it's worth in Act 7 the Green Sun Black Hole takes up the whole screen and it looks a lot like an eye. (Jades?)
I have nothing else I just wondered if this could mean anything?
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Post by loading on Aug 19, 2016 0:59:06 GMT
It's just fulfillment of one of calliope's early quotes where she called the Green Sun an emerald eye.
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Aug 25, 2016 18:31:33 GMT
It's just fulfillment of one of calliope's early quotes where she called the Green Sun an emerald eye. Well, maybe not exactly if the Green Sun itself is the Emerald Eye, as it wasn't fixed in the abyss forever like she said it was. |
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Post by Gab on Aug 26, 2016 18:39:37 GMT
For a time I supposed it may still qualify due to the appearance of the black hole with the distinctive green glow still present in the event horizon, or whatever the correct term would be. Though it quickly changes from that to a much larger mass afterward. It's still sort of greenish I suppose? And actually, that phenomenon far better fits the description of a thing with "swirling arms of bright coloUrs and mayhem," however flashy and destructive the ordinary green sun might be. Either way, I think that essentially qualifies as keeping the statement correct, in the sort of stretching it, kind-of-but-not-really way that honestly the comic has pulled before. It's either that, or the event transcends Calliope's then-knowledge of how things would go. At the time, we all thought the green sun couldn't and shouldn't have ever been removed, and so did she.
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Post by legendary on Aug 30, 2016 0:25:04 GMT
Honestly that whole speech was kind of a big lie. 11/11/11 had nothing to do with the Legendary Octet because half of its members never experienced that day.
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Post by GreatKaiserNui on Sept 11, 2016 1:18:28 GMT
I think that the destruction of the entire reality will keep their from being more Sburb games, therefore as terrible as the cessation of all existance is, it was nessisary.
Either that or my brain has absorbed too much Vriska.
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Post by obsidalicious on Sept 11, 2016 3:42:01 GMT
I think that the destruction of the entire reality will keep their from being more Sburb games, therefore as terrible as the cessation of all existance is, it was nessisary. Either that or my brain has absorbed too much Vriska. Not entirely sure how the cessation of Sburb without any sort of replacement system is a good thing. Calliope told us that all Universes die eventually, and there's no indication that Universe C is anything special and so without a way to replenish them, everything is doomed to a finite existence. It'd be like if, in the Bible, God decided to not only flood out the entire planet sans what was on the ark, but he also made everything and everyone on the arc infertile too. |
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Post by TrickleJest on Sept 25, 2016 9:14:04 GMT
Okay, in my opinion our Caliborn will not become English, and our John and Jade and etc will not go in the juju. Reason - it doesn't have to be the alpha, so there's a slim chance it IS the alpha. The juju is a plot device, so only one instance of Caliborn will be English, and one instance of John etc will be trapped.
Also I hope Vriska died when fighting English just because I want that to happen.
Please don't kill me...
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Post by ashercrane on Sept 25, 2016 17:36:57 GMT
Okay, in my opinion our Caliborn will not become English, and our John and Jade and etc will not go in the juju. Reason - it doesn't have to be the alpha, so there's a slim chance it IS the alpha. The juju is a plot device, so only one instance of Caliborn will be English, and one instance of John etc will be trapped. Also I hope Vriska died when fighting English just because I want that to happen. Please don't kill me... Huh... I guess people probably just figured that it was the Alpha since it's the most important from what we've seen, but I suppose it probably doesn't have to be. Don't worry, I'd say probably about half the fanbase agrees. I think people just have a tendency to feel like the half the fanbase that disagrees with them on Vriska is the more vocal half. |
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Sept 28, 2016 22:12:34 GMT
Okay, in my opinion our Caliborn will not become English, and our John and Jade and etc will not go in the juju. Reason - it doesn't have to be the alpha, so there's a slim chance it IS the alpha. The juju is a plot device, so only one instance of Caliborn will be English, and one instance of John etc will be trapped. Also I hope Vriska died when fighting English just because I want that to happen. Please don't kill me... I don't necessarily disagree with that, but there's one problem. There doesn't seem to be any dead Caliborns. If our Caliborn didn't become LE, then that would mean another one would have to, and ours would have to be doomed and most likely die some way. (Getting bored and asking Yaldabaoth to kill him? Killing himself and triggering a Just death? Being killed by actual LE somehow? Just dying because the time line was doomed? *shrug*) |
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Post by TrickleJest on Sept 29, 2016 12:26:52 GMT
Okay, in my opinion our Caliborn will not become English, and our John and Jade and etc will not go in the juju. Reason - it doesn't have to be the alpha, so there's a slim chance it IS the alpha. The juju is a plot device, so only one instance of Caliborn will be English, and one instance of John etc will be trapped. Also I hope Vriska died when fighting English just because I want that to happen. Please don't kill me... I don't necessarily disagree with that, but there's one problem. There doesn't seem to be any dead Caliborns. If our Caliborn didn't become LE, then that would mean another one would have to, and ours would have to be doomed and most likely die some way. (Getting bored and asking Yaldabaoth to kill him? Killing himself and triggering a Just death? Being killed by actual LE somehow? Just dying because the time line was doomed? *shrug*) I think our Caliborn is the alpha, but in my opinion Englishes has a different thing than everyone else. If Caliborn from another timeline becomes LE, LE can teleport into the main timeline. So our Caliborn can be alive & not be LE. |
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Post by Gab on Sept 29, 2016 18:34:45 GMT
Personally I think it's pretty unlikely. We see him well on his journey to becoming LE, with the quest, the felt, the clock and all that. And it seems like that's what he wants to do, as well. It suits his character and the actions he takes to become Lord English, I think.
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 7, 2016 19:53:13 GMT
Personally I think it's pretty unlikely. We see him well on his journey to becoming LE, with the quest, the felt, the clock and all that. And it seems like that's what he wants to do, as well. It suits his character and the actions he takes to become Lord English, I think. I'm just a pretty big fan of Caliborn and I really wanted a "redemption" arc for him, but I guess not all... uh... "villains" need redemption. |
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Post by mementovivere on Oct 7, 2016 21:32:39 GMT
Personally I think it's pretty unlikely. We see him well on his journey to becoming LE, with the quest, the felt, the clock and all that. And it seems like that's what he wants to do, as well. It suits his character and the actions he takes to become Lord English, I think. I'm just a pretty big fan of Caliborn and I really wanted a "redemption" arc for him, but I guess not all... uh... "villains" need redemption. I'm still a little bummed out that the alternate Caliborn in the timeline where Calliope God Tiered was just absorbed by her on her way to predomination. Even if there wasn't room in the story to give him a major role, it still could have been cool to see a dreambubble conversation with him or something. I mean, Caliborn's one of the main villains/antiheroes of the story... it seemed like kind of a waste of an alternate self for him to never even be shown. |
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Post by ashercrane on Oct 7, 2016 21:49:52 GMT
I'm just a pretty big fan of Caliborn and I really wanted a "redemption" arc for him, but I guess not all... uh... "villains" need redemption. I'm still a little bummed out that the alternate Caliborn in the timeline where Calliope God Tiered was just absorbed by her on her way to predomination. Even if there wasn't room in the story to give him a major role, it still could have been cool to see a dreambubble conversation with him or something. I mean, Caliborn's one of the main villains/antiheroes of the story... it seemed like kind of a waste of an alternate self for him to never even be shown. Probably because a lot of people figured one caliborn is QUITE enough. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2016 7:50:40 GMT
I'm still a little bummed out that the alternate Caliborn in the timeline where Calliope God Tiered was just absorbed by her on her way to predomination. Even if there wasn't room in the story to give him a major role, it still could have been cool to see a dreambubble conversation with him or something. I mean, Caliborn's one of the main villains/antiheroes of the story... it seemed like kind of a waste of an alternate self for him to never even be shown. Probably because a lot of people figured one caliborn is QUITE enough. shameless blasphemy there's no such thing as enough caliborn "enough caliborn" is actually an example of unacceptable phrasing in dictionaries |
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 9, 2016 8:20:16 GMT
Probably because a lot of people figured one caliborn is QUITE enough. shameless blasphemy there's no such thing as enough caliborn "enough caliborn" is actually an example of unacceptable phrasing in dictionaries Truth |
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Post by digiornospizza on Oct 18, 2016 2:50:30 GMT
IDE: Ghosts can enter the new universe and be revived. death is only permanent if ALL players die.
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Post by obsidalicious on Oct 18, 2016 3:08:04 GMT
IDE: Ghosts can enter the new universe and be revived. death is only permanent if ALL players die. Well, the Condesce did manage to acquire a second Gl'bgolyb from unknown sources and left it hanging out on Earth. There's no reason for it to not be there still, and it might be able to make Dream Bubbles like the HorrorTerrors could. Then again, this one appeared to strongly disapprove of Trolls since it shut down every attempt the Condesce made to clone new Trolls, so if Karkat and Kanaya are seen to be having a happy ending in Act 7 and not, y'know bleeding out of every orifice in agony, then that means Gl'bgolyb probably isn't there anymore. |
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Post by TrickleJest on Oct 18, 2016 15:54:03 GMT
Does anyone here also think Roxy x John is a good ship? I dunno, it just seems natural, and I'm a sucker for uh... "canon" pairings. (yeah, i know its only semi-canon but fuck it)
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Post by cookiefonster on Oct 19, 2016 11:48:25 GMT
Does anyone here also think Roxy x John is a good ship? I dunno, it just seems natural, and I'm a sucker for uh... "canon" pairings. (yeah, i know its only semi-canon but fuck it) It's a really popular ship so you're definitely in luck. |
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Post by GreatKaiserNui on Nov 2, 2016 0:13:58 GMT
My Idea is that the Epilogue will not be like the snaps at all.
Instead we will have John chase down Caliborn and rescue Lil'Sal.
Caliborn will be pushed off a cliff in the struggle and a weird explosion will happen but we never ever find out what truly in fact just occured.
Leaving us even more ambiguous then before.
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Post by obsidalicious on Nov 2, 2016 0:47:53 GMT
IDE: Hussie will continue to butcher the pacing and act structure of the story by having the epilogue be longer than Act 6 and have it depict story-crucial content despite the fact that epilogues aren't supposed to.
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