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Post by Blaperile on Apr 7, 2016 20:39:54 GMT
This thread is a continuation of my old thread on the MSPA Forums, where I try to track where and when each character has last appeared.
Last updated for page 10030: Human universe B1 B2 Kids Carapaces Sprites Guardians Animals Sprites Squared Robots Troll universe A1 A2 Trolls Ancestors Midnight Crew Cherub universe Hussie universe
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Post by sporkaganza on Apr 7, 2016 20:42:46 GMT
It looks like you've mixed up the pre- and post-retcon for the Human universe > Animals section. Actually, maybe in general?
No, wait, I misunderstood what they meant. It's referring to whether or not the characters ORIGINATED pre-retcon or post-retcon, not which timeline you're keeping track of.
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Post by plainWonder on Apr 7, 2016 20:44:37 GMT
I love how many characters were in this flash. We went through them together but I'm still forgetting some I believe.
14 Felt Members, Ms. Paint 8 Kids Karkat, Terezi, Kanaya, (Aradia), (Tavros), Meenah, Vriska, Gamzee, (Sollux) Hussie Yaldabaoth Nannasprite (x2), Jasprosesprite, Davepetasprite, Arquiusprite Spades Slick, Bec Noir, Jack English, PM, WV Serenity Caliborn, Calliope, Alternate Calliope, Lord English )(IC Dad Crocker Casey
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Post by ConstantTroublemaker on Apr 7, 2016 20:47:37 GMT
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 7, 2016 20:50:10 GMT
It looks like you've mixed up the pre- and post-retcon for the Human universe > Animals section. No, it's correct. Bilious Slick and Minihoof are the same for both. GCat is present in the pre-retcon tracker but not in the post-retcon one because that GCat is already being tracked as a B2 Sprite. The Casey we saw in the most recent update is the post-retcon one, so the post-retcon Casey was updated with the most recent appearance while for the pre-retcon one her last appearance is from 2000 pages ago. It isn't exactly clear whether or not this is pre-retcon or post-retcon Serenity, but seeing as we saw a whole bunch of fireflies in this flash, it suggests that these are the free fireflies from LOWAS. And Serenity was last seen close to all those fireflies, so I went with contextual evidence to suggest this is pre-retcon Serenity and not post-retcon Serenity. Though obviously we can't be 100% sure. Similarly, for the Nannasprites it isn't clear which Nannasprite is which. I just made a guess that the one "doing the most important thing" (AKA fighting The Condesce) is the pre-retcon one, but it's just a guess. I love how many characters were in this flash. We went through them together but I'm still forgetting some I believe. 14 Felt Members, Ms. Paint 8 Kids Karkat, Terezi, Kanaya, (Aradia), (Tavros), Meenah, Vriska, Gamzee, (Sollux) Hussie Yaldabaoth Nannasprite (x2), Jasprosesprite, Davepetasprite, Arquiusprite Spades Slick, Bec Noir, Jack English, PM, WV Serenity Caliborn, Calliope, Alternate Calliope, Lord English )(IC Dad Crocker Casey Yeah, I had to update 52 characters for just this flash. That gotta be a record, haha.
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Post by sporkaganza on Apr 7, 2016 20:52:12 GMT
Yeah, I figured it out. Also, though, the B1 Carapaces only has a "post-retcon" subheading, which makes having that extra subheading pretty pointless. It's just one extra thing you have to click.
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 7, 2016 20:55:41 GMT
Yeah, I figured it out. Also, though, the B1 Carapaces only has a "post-retcon" subheading, which makes having that extra subheading pretty pointless. It's just one extra thing you have to click. That's because I haven't got around to putting each of my tracker images in yet.  I have a pre-retcon B1 Carapace tracker, it's just not on here yet. I just wanted to make sure all trackers I updated for [S] Collide were already up at least. I'm also just trying to get the structure in the OP right, the Preview button when you're making your post doesn't show any of the spoilers so I had to make the thread before I could see if I hadn't made any mistakes.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 7, 2016 20:58:19 GMT
Nice work!
Interesting thing to note: if Jane is dead on the ground after the Condesce choked her, then all post-retcon alpha kids except Jake are currently dead.
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Post by ConstantTroublemaker on Apr 7, 2016 21:02:13 GMT
Interesting thing to note: if Jane is dead on the ground after the Condesce choked her, then all post-retcon alpha kids except Jake are currently dead.
You are not thinking quadrimensionally.
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 7, 2016 21:07:15 GMT
Nice work! Interesting thing to note: if Jane is dead on the ground after the Condesce choked her, then all post-retcon alpha kids except Jake are currently dead. Which... is actually really similar to the situation just before [S] Dirk: Unite, haha. Sweet catch, I hadn't thought of that.
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Post by therationaldove on Apr 7, 2016 21:15:48 GMT
Some characters you missed:
Pre-retcon B2 Sprites: -Erisolsprite: LOTAK -Arquissprite: LOTAK
B1 Guardians: -Dad Egbert- Battlefield -Mom Lalonde- Battlefield -Jake Harley- I remember him last seen in-comic piltoing his ship through space, chronologically, he died on Jade's island. -Bro Strider- LOWAS
Post-recon B2 Agents: Heart Boxcars: Derse
Miscellaneous: -Ms. Paint (I would count her as Hussieverse): LOMAX -I dunno if you are looking at Robots as seperate characters, but i'd say that Liv Tyler and Lil' Seb count at the very least. -Lil Seb: LOCAM -Liv Tyler: Green Sun (pre-Green Sun)
THE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER IN HOMESTUCK: -Lil Cal: Prospit
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 7, 2016 21:35:01 GMT
Some characters you missed: Pre-retcon B2 Sprites: -Erisolsprite: LOTAK -Arquissprite: LOTAK B1 Guardians: -Dad Egbert- Battlefield -Mom Lalonde- Battlefield -Jake Harley- I remember him last seen in-comic piltoing his ship through space, chronologically, he died on Jade's island. -Bro Strider- LOWAS Post-recon B2 Agents: Heart Boxcars: Derse Miscellaneous: -Ms. Paint (I would count her as Hussieverse): LOMAX -I dunno if you are looking at Robots as seperate characters, but i'd say that Liv Tyler and Lil' Seb count at the very least. -Lil Seb: LOCAM -Liv Tyler: Green Sun (pre-Green Sun) THE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTER IN HOMESTUCK: -Lil Cal: Prospit For everyone except the B1 Guardians: this is another case of trackers that I have already made but simply haven't put up yet in this thread and still need to get around to doing. Again, I just put up the bare minimum right now, to get the structure right and to get up all characters that appeared in Collide. The B1 Guardians is a tracker I indeed haven't made yet though. Ms. Paint is already up and with the rest of the B1 Carapaces.
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Post by therationaldove on Apr 7, 2016 21:51:24 GMT
Oh dang. Sorry about that then. Updates to the tracker: John, Rose, Dave, Jane, Roxy, Dirk Kanaya: Lilypad
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Post by sporkaganza on Apr 7, 2016 21:53:09 GMT
Also: Dad and (one) Nannasprite: Derse
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 9, 2016 21:37:51 GMT
Updated the trackers for the past 3 updates. Post-retcon B1 Carapaces (updated Jack, PM, WV and Ms. Paint):  (Before anyone asks, I didn't pick the last page for PM's picture because it's just her arm there) Post-retcon B1 Kids (updated Rose, Dave and Jade):  Alpha Cherubs (fully updated):  Pre-retcon B1 Kids (updated John):  Pre-retcon B2 Kids (updated Roxy):  Post-retcon B2 Kids (updated Jane and Dirk):  Post-retcon A2 Trolls (updated Terezi and Vriska):  Pre-retcon B1 Sprites:  Post-retcon B2 Guardians (updated Dad):  Pre-retcon animals (updated Serenity):  Hussieverse (updated Andrew): 
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Post by sporkaganza on Apr 9, 2016 23:19:15 GMT
For post-retcon John and Davesprite, shouldn't you use that Calliope-illustrated panel of LOWAS exploding?
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 10, 2016 0:04:24 GMT
For post-retcon John and Davesprite, shouldn't you use that Calliope-illustrated panel of LOWAS exploding? He makes a point of including only panels in which the characters themselves are clearly visible.
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Post by sporkaganza on Apr 10, 2016 0:15:48 GMT
I figured but I thought I'd ask anyway. Also, when are you going to upload all the other ones, like the B1 Guardians and whatnot? I mean, they're not particularly relevant but still. I need the tracker to show where Mierfa Durgas and Nektan Whelan are 
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 23, 2016 12:11:42 GMT
Finally got around to updating the trackers for all characters who appeared since page 10.005 right uptil the end of Homestuck. I guess these will be the final images for most of these characters! Unless they show up in the Epilogue or a future Homestuck project of Andrew's. (I will probably be tracking Hiveswap characters too) I've had a great time running this little project the past few years and I want to thank you all for checking in with this thread every now and then. I also want to thank SomeGuyNamedDavid, the guy who originally started tracking the Trolls years ago and inspired me to start tracking the Kids, which eventually expanded to not just take over the tracking of the Trolls after he quit, but also all other characters. Anyway, before I show you the newest tracker images, I just want to say that I chose to do split-screens for all characters we saw in their future lives on Earth, with one part of the screen showing them over there and one part showing them in the B2 session. I chose to do this because it's unclear whether or not they're the same versions of the characters so it would not really be "fair" to go with either version of them only to show it here. Other than that, I've also changed the images of post-retcon Aradia and Sollux. Instead of that scene with them near the ghost army I decided to pick the Eridan scene from [S] Terezi: Remem8er. I go into more detail about the reasoning over here. Pre-retcon animals (updated Serenity):  Pre-retcon B1 Kids (updated John):  Post-retcon B1 Kids (updated Rose, Dave and Jade):  Post-retcon B2 Guardians (updated Dad):  Post-retcon B2 Kids (updated Jane, Dirk and Jake):  Pre-retcon B2 Kids (updated Roxy):  Alpha Cherubs (fully updated):  Post-retcon B1 Carapaces (updated WV and PM):  Pre-retcon A2 Trolls (updated Aradia and Tavros):  A1 Trolls (updated Meenah):  Alternate Cherubs (fully updated):  Pre-retcon B1 Sprites (fully updated):  Post-retcon A2 Trolls (updated Aradia, Sollux, Karkat, Kanaya, Terezi and Vriska):  Post-retcon animals (updated Bilious Slick):  I figured but I thought I'd ask anyway. Also, when are you going to upload all the other ones, like the B1 Guardians and whatnot? I mean, they're not particularly relevant but still. I need the tracker to show where Mierfa Durgas and Nektan Whelan are  I'll try getting around to it someday soon. 
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 23, 2016 12:48:44 GMT
Nice work!
The split-screen thing for those we saw in the Earth montage is kind of what I expected to happen.
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Post by fizzyapple777 on Aug 10, 2016 2:58:00 GMT
This is REALLY useful! Thanks for making this!
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Post by TrickleJest on Sept 12, 2016 8:08:18 GMT
thank you!
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Post by Blaperile on Oct 29, 2016 21:38:51 GMT
Sooo, here we are again! Homestuck surprisingly updated once more, for the Credits, so naturally I decided to update the trackers again! I didn't think I'd be back at updating trackers so soon, hehe. Anyway, when Act 7 came out I decided to put in both the scene at the Lilypad platform (or LOFAF) and the last scene of them on Earth because it was unclear whether or not the thing we saw on Earth was just a vision or what actually happened. But now that we do have that certainty, it seemed the right thing to do to simply go with their last appearance in this flash as the only image for their tracker. But instead of doing that, I decided to make a split screen for the 8 Kids, between their last appearance in the Credits and their last appearance in Caliborn's Masterpiece (so, like it was for Gamzee and Caliborn already). Why? For the main reason I did split screens in the past, because if we ever do see the characters again, it's unclear which version of them we'll be following: the ones pre-Masterpiece, or the ones post-Masterpiece. I didn't do this split-screen sooner because it was still very uncertain which version of the characters in the Masterpiece those would be, but now we have a strong indication that it's actually these 8 versions of them. And other than that, I've also decided to separate the rapbots from the Robot tracker, and then split up the Rapbot tracker into a pre-retcon and post-retcon one, because we've now for the first time seen the actual post-retcon rapbots. Anyway, without further ado, here's the updated tracker images! Alpha Cherubs (updated Calliope and Caliborn):  Other Robots (updated Lil Seb):  Pre-retcon B1 Kids (updated John):  Post-retcon A2 Trolls (updated Karkat, Kanaya, Terezi, and Gamzee):  Pre-retcon B2 Kids (updated Roxy):  Post-retcon B1 Kids (updated Rose, Dave and Jade):  Post-retcon B2 Kids (updated Jane, Dirk and Jake):  Post-retcon B2 Guardians (updated Dad Crocker):  Post-retcon B2 Sprites (updated GCatavrosprite):  Post-retcon Rapbots:  Pre-retcon Sprites:  Post-retcon B1 Carapaces (updated WV and PM): 
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Post by plainWonder on Oct 29, 2016 22:12:48 GMT
Woohoo! Awesome. I'm glad we finally got confirmation about the Universe C scene and that these versions of the kids spent more than a moment living their idyllic lives there before (probably) going off to fight Caliborn. Interestingly we didn't see post-retcon Nannasprite again, Zillywave nor Squarehoo. Nor the Felt.
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Post by TrickleJest on Nov 14, 2016 18:24:36 GMT
Blap, do you have any idea what happened to Pretcon Dirk? I feel so bad for him, just floating in space...
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