Classpect Discussion Thread Apr 13, 2016 12:20:02 GMT
Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 13, 2016 12:20:02 GMT
alleywaycreeper : Well, we can probably say that Sollux did have something that controlled him once with Vriska, but that was a one-time thing that was simply what sets off his story. Other than that, from what Aranea said concerning Meulin and Kurloz's relationship was that they split from being matesprites back to just being friends. She never held the incident between them as a dealbreaker to their friendship, but from how Aranea said it, it was a slow conversion to Kurloz's beliefs rather than a sudden switch, which more or less could have meant that Meulin wasn't influenced by Kurloz's chucklevoodoos at first, but rather, that she stayed with him for some time before her decision.
Even then, Kurloz might "control" someone with his chucklevoodoos, but I doubt he brainwashed anyone using the force of his chucklevoodoos alone. When Kurloz had control over Meulin, Meulin more or less doesn't know what she did while she was controlled. It was a gap in her memory. If anything, it was more likely that she was slowly indoctrinated into his beliefs because of her desire to reconnect with him, making her more susceptible to having her own identity stolen away from her by Kurloz because of it.
So if anything, she lost her identity in an attempt to try and reclaim her relationship with Kurloz, when the ideal situation might have been for her to give up her relationship with Kurloz in order to retain her identity. Compared to Sollux who experienced a lot of bad things happening to him, but he simply just shrugged and got back up instead of turning back and trying to look back to reclaim what he lost.
That's conjecture. I mean, just about everything in these threads tends to be (including just about everything I say too) because we have so little hard information, but still. We have no way of knowing how long Kurloz has been using his powers on Meulin, what the extent of their effects are on her, or if Aranea had a clear picture of what was going on. After all, she was the busy body who had all this information on everybody, yet she had no clue what Kurloz was doing to his former matesprit.
What I'm saying is, the mind control keeps us from getting a clear view of Meulin's actions as a Mage because we have no idea how strongly she was effected and how much influence Kurloz truly has over her. We can't no how much to attribute to him or to her class. If you want to try to figure out the Mages in general and Meulin in particular, you have to take that into account.