Omega Update Fan Adventure Discussion Thread

I really hope that as both a lazy way of finishing and as a nod to Homestuck itself, it does some sought of animation to end everything, but ends up with none of the plot points resolved at all. Like, Rose just stays flabergasted at everything without anything happening about it, and maybe John still hasn't started the game or something.

Hell, if you believe the ghost writer theory, maybe even get some other Fan Adventure maker to make the last couple updates or something.

I love when Fan Adventure's are made in such a way that they can end anywhere if they needed too!

Some people believe that instead of writing the end to homestuck, similar to how he hired people to do the art, he hired people to do the writing.

I don't particularly believe it, but its one explination of why everything was weirdly disconnected and a lot of foreshadowing that appeared didn't meant much post-Game Over, or why weird things that make no sense if you know the ending (Why wake karkat up!? why not let him have a special moment!?) where their.

Either after the Homosuck that comes after game Over, or after the Retcon happens, depending on who you ask.

I personally just think its an effect of not having written for a while though. But things like Karkat, or Jasprose and Davepeta having nearly no purpose, or the white at the end of Collide, or the fact that Act 7 didn;t have a curtain at the end for some reason are weird.

Like, I can get why he might mention things like Jade being conytrolled by )(IC and forget. But if you know how the stories going to end, whitch he should have, since he story boarded the ending, it doesn't make sense that he'd pointlessly do the above.

Yep! Ideally, you should build your adventure so that you can end it fairly easily if you want too aswell. For joke-y comics this is easy, since you can just "everything failed" your way into it, but for plot based adventures, while this is difficult, i think its important to try and keep everything so that you could realistically get aanything everything finished in one "arc" atleast.

By that I mean, unlike hussie, mak sure to be always activly tying up loose ends all throughout the story, don't leave an arc with too many unsolved mysteries, and stuff.

I feel like there would be more value in a story with original stands and original story with Homestuck characters. But for what it is, it's good enough.

EDIT: Stand Idea's

John:
[HEIR TRANSPARENT]
Appearance: a robotic, light, thin creature with a long hood, and various clothes coming out of its extremities.
Abilities:
[Do the Windy Thing] Can transform John and Heir Transparent into air
[Doctor] If not killed justly or heroically, John comes back to life
[Heir of Greif] Johns retcon abilities, unlocked by stabbing his stand with the arrow

Rose:
[BLACK ROSE]
Appearance: A dark skinned being with pink highlights and a thorned shadow. has multiple arms, and multiple heads. Each head with a different emotion, and each arm holding a thin white wand.
Abilities:
[Dance of Thorns] The stand can control its shadow, and even make it into a physical force
[At the Price of Oblivion] a powerful energy beam coming from the wands, able to break anything, even things that rules would generally say can not be.

Dave:
[RED DISK]
Appearance: A large red strong stand with disks covering its body. Also gets awesome shades.
Abilities:
[Time on my side] Can move backwards in time, thus creating infinite versions of himself. he must close off all paradox's however.

Jade:
[GREEN SUN]
Appearance: A glowing green being of indeterminable shape.
Abilities:
[Umbral Ultimatum] can teleport itself, or anything it touches anywhere
[Atomic Bonsai] can change the size anything

Yeah, that was a typo. my mistake.

Requiums have their own complete conciousness, so they would be unfitting.

I know how that feels! However, if your going with something like just taking advantage of the MSPA format itself and making your own spin on it, it should be okay if some thought and effort was put into it. Like you, my thing isn't too much of a traditional fanventure in my opinion, unless that's not what you're talking about since your wording here is a bit odd.

Anyways, I think it depends. My particular adventure is mostly character/dialogue-driven, according to my personal analysis as well as the analysis of others. Unlike the creator, the participants don't know how the story will end up/go next, and than just adds onto the fun/silliness. Also, some planning on certain thing shouldn't hurt.
Like I said, I think it all depends on how you treat your story and how you want it to feel.

As for waiting for correct commands, unless the adventure is highly improvised (the opposite of a good Sburbventure, typically), I tend to say authors should just go on without any reader suggested commands. The readers should definitely have some chance to influence the plot or direction of the story (well, if you want them to that is) but most fan adventures don't get enough regular commands to make too much use of them, in my opinion.

^ this
from experience: people will absolutely not go in the way you want them to go.
trust me, people are strange
in my newest adventure i just go with the flow and any plot progress is up to the readers. it seems to be working so far, although i did need to give a little 'nudge' recently.

To expand on this, I think my advice for what you should plan is.

World
Mechanics
Scenario
Characters (somewhat)
Story (not really)

You should try and gave a very general grasp of the world and mechanics that inhabit your adventure. But at the same time, these are the things you need to try most to be able to give up. Not that they are the most important too, but instead, make sure that you can give them up if people don't care about them, or expand on them in interesting ways.

When building the scenario, its important to make it as if its an open ended question. It should be tied together with your mechanics to allow people to solve it in interesting and fun ways. Remember this. Puzzle's arent fun, problems are. Example: You are presented with a room with a door that won't open and a man sits in the front. A puzzle would be the man saying "here's a riddle" (and not immediately solving it with a diolouge section), a problem would show you the player has the ability to summon ramen, and that the door and man exist, and that you need to get past, and let the players decide how.

Characters are strange in that while I believe that you should plan them, those plans will almost immediately die. I think the best way to do characters in an adventure is to try and put a part of yourself into them, and then let them expand as characters naturally through what they do. With your voice, and the interpretations by everyone commenting, you create a good character.

Story is the weirdest I think for adventures. My suggestion is to have a "plan" in mind, but to give it up on a whim. As i said, you should know how the story "should" progress, but you should be able to change that and adapt accordingly. You should know how the characters got into the room, if you go for the ever so popular "woke up in a room" opening for example, and its usually good to have some forces in the background to become climax's down the line that can act however you want rather then the players. This would be things like villians, omnipotent entities, or just in game forces like luck and such.

Of course! That wouldn't be a forum adventure, though.

It's been a while since I made an adventure. I used to do it all the time at the old MSPA adventures. My adventures were, let us say it, evolutionary, always changing into new things. Each time I made one I gained more experience for the other. I learned better at how to craft a story, to drawing, and hack I even become a bit of a pixel novice artiest thanks to them. So coming back, and restarting it all is just... Like coming back to full circle you know?
So yeah, I made an adventure in the cradle called Wonder Fever, and I hope it will run okay and people will have fun participating. If I am already on the subject, do you guys remember your very first adventure or an idea for an adventure you ever created?