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Post by Ariestinak on Apr 4, 2016 17:33:06 GMT
This theory is insane and also somehow makes a lot of sense. At least it explains AH's spooky ghost eyes in the whole comic.
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 4, 2016 17:47:13 GMT
I expect less plot twists than in Cascade because this time around Hussie is trying to tie up lose ends, not create new ones. So a lot of it will be heroes winning and things finally making sense, and plot twists tend to go against that.
That said, I'll be disappointed if Vriska's plan does not fail in a bunch of hilarious ways and the heroes have to try a lot harder to defeat LE than they are right now.
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Post by ConstantTroublemaker on Apr 4, 2016 17:53:23 GMT
is insane and also somehow makes a lot of sense.
This is probably the best definition of Homestuck around.
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Post by mementovivere on Apr 4, 2016 18:02:26 GMT
@strawberry Luffy: That's fair, but I would argue that major plot twists in Homestuck tend to answer more questions than they create. Cascade DID make a lot of things finally make sense (the nature of the Green Sun, Doc Scratch's plans, Bec Noir's timeline, the fate of the exiles), and didn't bring up many new questions aside from "given that most of the characters have been brought together and are now headed for the same destination, what happens next?" Same with stuff like Lord English's creation--it was a crazy twist that few saw coming, but it also explained a lot of previously confusing things like Gamzee's motivations, Lil Cal's connection, Doc Scratch's personality, and why Lord English is the way he is.
I personally expect Homestuck to make (more or less) perfect sense by the time it's done, but that's not going to happen without the shocking revelation of some puzzle pieces that nobody saw coming, but that explain a bunch of previously-confusing things in retrospect.
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Post by ConstantTroublemaker on Apr 4, 2016 19:03:25 GMT
I personally expect Homestuck to make (more or less) perfect sense by the time it's done, but that's not going to happen without the shocking revelation of some puzzle pieces that nobody saw coming, but that explain a bunch of previously-confusing things in retrospect.
^^^^^^^^^^^ This. Totally this.
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Post by therationaldove on Apr 4, 2016 19:39:00 GMT
I would be really surprised if there wasn't at least one thing that wasn't completely unprecedented come out of the upcoming flash. It's not like Hussie it's gonna keep it completely straightfoward, even for the very last bits of the comic. I mean, Jasprose and Davepeta are two characters no one saw coming and even though it wasn't a "plot twist" is was still totally unexpected. Hell, even Lil Cal's creation as a Juju was a plot twist that came in pretty late. I would be dissapointed, as others have said, if everything was just a simple straighforward battle that was easily won.
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Post by BookwyrmBOTPH on Apr 4, 2016 21:24:55 GMT
Yello everyone, long time lurker here. The Calmasis theory definitely seems possible, but is it just me, or does anyone else feel like alt!Calliope isn't a sympathetic enough character to become the ultimate goodguy? She feels like she's had next to no character development and is kind of cold and unfeeling. If she's supposed to be this great person we root for, or become part of that entity, why hasn't she been given a more sympathetic personality? I dunno, I somehow doubt that a cool, detatched Calliope who not only comes from a doomed timeline, but a doomed timeline where she chose the path of the Conqueror, would end up being the savior of everything. Maybe that's just me though.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 4, 2016 21:29:05 GMT
Yello everyone, long time lurker here. The Calmasis theory definitely seems possible, but is it just me, or does anyone else feel like alt!Calliope isn't a sympathetic enough character to become the ultimate goodguy? She feels like she's had next to no character development and is kind of cold and unfeeling. If she's supposed to be this great person we root for, or become part of that entity, why hasn't she been given a more sympathetic personality? I dunno, I somehow doubt that a cool, detatched Calliope who not only comes from a doomed timeline, but a doomed timeline where she chose the path of the Conqueror, would end up being the savior of everything. Maybe that's just me though. I have a feeling that given her extremist views and plans, god tier Calliope may at some point border on being an antagonist. |
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Post by thecrystalship on Apr 4, 2016 21:36:27 GMT
So, I think I've solved the mystery of the AH insert based on all of the clues we've been given. IDE: We have actually been completely mislead about the way that the AH author insert's timeline has gone. The whole DOTA scene with AH in the Sepulchritude shirt proposing to Vriska in the desert is actually the earliest point in his timeline that we've seen so far, and he has been in the dreambubbles the entire time--AH getting gunned down by Lord English (dressed like Calmasis, which I'll get into later) is the last point in his timeline (as far as we've seen, anyway). It doesn't actually make sense for the DOTA scene to have taken place after he got killed by Lord English, because we already know that ghosts generally appear in the clothes that they died in. Think about it--the Hussie mansion, as far as we've seen, is in the middle of a vast desert full of horses, next to a big ocean. This is actually exactly where he is now, in the exact same clothes we were first introduced to him in! The "fourth walls" he posesses don't actually exist in some kind of outside-of-the-story space... they're just ordinary fenestrated plane portals like Roxy has, and just like with Roxy's portals, the space between them that Jade and John pass through is in the dream bubbles, with the trip taking 3 years because the distance between the sessions is so great. Any weird goofy things that happen during the AH segments (like the wolf head showing up in the attic, or Falcor barfing on bullies) can then be explained as just dreambubble magic. IDE^2: Calmasis is a combined amalgamation of Alt!Calliope, Davepetasprite^2, and the other half of Gamzee, created as the opposite counterpart of Lord English, and Calmasis and LE are the two mirthful messiahs. This is why Calmasis appears to be wearing Calliope's clothes, Gamzee's grey skin, and Davepeta's hairstyle. Like, look at Calmasis's hair and Davepeta's side by side... they have the little curl and everything: Later, Calmasis and Lord English (the two mirthful messiahs) combine to create the AH insert, which is why they look so similar but not identical. SOMETHING has to account for AH's love of horses, and that's bound to be the ARquiusprite part of him. Alternate IDE^2: Calmasis IS the AH insert, and is created when they use the house juju against LE, which forces four individuals to combine into the four slots of the house juju: Lord English, Alt!Calliope, Davepetasprite^2, and 1/2 of Gamzee. They defeat him by transforming him into a more stable form, made of a perfectly balanced combination of brothers, moirails, two halves of a whole individual, and the Cal twins. Calmasis then ends up either painting his skin orange and donning a brown wig, or else changing his appearance via dreambubble magic. So basically, the full timeline would go: > Davepetapsprite^2 is inexplicably drawn to the battle against Lord English in a desert full of horses, because subconciously they know they're meant to be combined down the road > At some point alt!Calliope and 1/2 of Gamzee show up as well > Somehow in the final battle all of these components combine with Lord English to create the AH insert, possibly with Calmasis as an intermediary step but possibly not > the AH insert remains in the desert full of horses, but because time makes no sense in the dreambubbles, he runs into Vriska much earlier in her timeline and try to give her the Ring of Life (which is just the transformed Ring of Void that we see Caliborn with prior to becoming Lord English!) > the AH insert then does a bunch of dumb stuff in the dream bubbles (as seen in Openbound) and then follows Meenah/Vriska around, leading him to the ghost army battle against Lord English > some crazy battle stuff happens, the AH insert possibly watches his own creation happen because of dreambubble time weirdness > the AH insert decides to stay in the dreambubble desert and creates a mansion (or one is created from dreambubble memory magic) > the AH insert faithfully documents the craaaaazy tale that is Homestuck, retaining the exact same narrative control powers that Caliborn already possessed, but using a combination of the art styles of Calliope, Caliborn (right angles = aliased pixel style), Davesprite, and Dirk, and using Homosuck as a sort of "rough draft" > the AH insert eventually gets gunned down by Lord English, fulfilling the longstanding tradition of past selves hating their future selves and vice versa > Either something yet to be determined happens with the AH insert after death, or he's just straight up double-dead after that and that's the last we see of him Oh no. This was my theory from the forums. Memento how could you. |
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Post by mementovivere on Apr 4, 2016 21:56:53 GMT
Oh no. This was my theory from the forums. Memento how could you. Haha, was it really??? Like, the whole thing? I know variations of the "AH = Calmasis = Calliope/Davepeta/Gamzee" theory are not especially new, but the part that I was especially proud of coming up with was the revelation that it makes more sense if the AH we've been watching in the dream bubbles goes on to become the sepulchritude-shirted AH we were first introduced to in the story. I don't think I've heard that said anywhere else, but it certainly may have been. Either way, when multiple people are coming up with the same theories independently of each other, I figure that means we're on the right track to solving this absurd puzzle  |
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Post by BookwyrmBOTPH on Apr 4, 2016 22:04:36 GMT
Yello everyone, long time lurker here. The Calmasis theory definitely seems possible, but is it just me, or does anyone else feel like alt!Calliope isn't a sympathetic enough character to become the ultimate goodguy? She feels like she's had next to no character development and is kind of cold and unfeeling. If she's supposed to be this great person we root for, or become part of that entity, why hasn't she been given a more sympathetic personality? I dunno, I somehow doubt that a cool, detatched Calliope who not only comes from a doomed timeline, but a doomed timeline where she chose the path of the Conqueror, would end up being the savior of everything. Maybe that's just me though. I have a feeling that given her extremist views and plans, god tier Calliope may at some point border on being an antagonist. Or at the very least, she's going to screw something up. Either that, or she was a red herring this whole time, and there's another alt!Calliope who's not as... ambiguously dark. If you think about it, she really seems a lot more sinister (or at least misguided) than the characters are giving her credit for. Since she was God Tier, she kind of had to have died a Just death, since it's heavily implied she only died by a Denizen mercy killing after failing to win the Conqueror's session. Unless Denizens can bypass God Tier immortality or something. |
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Post by ceph on Apr 4, 2016 22:08:19 GMT
Yello everyone, long time lurker here. The Calmasis theory definitely seems possible, but is it just me, or does anyone else feel like alt!Calliope isn't a sympathetic enough character to become the ultimate goodguy? She feels like she's had next to no character development and is kind of cold and unfeeling. If she's supposed to be this great person we root for, or become part of that entity, why hasn't she been given a more sympathetic personality? I dunno, I somehow doubt that a cool, detatched Calliope who not only comes from a doomed timeline, but a doomed timeline where she chose the path of the Conqueror, would end up being the savior of everything. Maybe that's just me though. Not sure what you mean by the Calmasis theory but I figured I'd pitch my long-standing opinion that a soulmerge of Calliope, RoL, Davepeta, and half of Gamzee as the foils of everything that went into English (a cherub, a magic ring, a moirail, a strider proxy, and half of a clown) as well as respond to your feelings on the matter IMO the only way a character like alt!Calliope or Davepeta, as very recent additions to the story, could be justifiably used as LE's weakness is punching a hole in his invincibility (like feelings or sugar once did with Mobster Kingpin). Using a newly introduced doppelganger character who's been heavily foreshadowed (see: glitches and exploits in spacetime describing Davepeta fairly well, Caliborn's hatred for green/orange, etc) as a plot device who lets the other heroes deliver fatal attacks would be pretty in line with stuff that happens in Homestuck, and MSPA in general. |
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Post by thecrystalship on Apr 5, 2016 1:53:59 GMT
Oh no. This was my theory from the forums. Memento how could you. Haha, was it really??? Like, the whole thing? I know variations of the "AH = Calmasis = Calliope/Davepeta/Gamzee" theory are not especially new, but the part that I was especially proud of coming up with was the revelation that it makes more sense if the AH we've been watching in the dream bubbles goes on to become the sepulchritude-shirted AH we were first introduced to in the story. I don't think I've heard that said anywhere else, but it certainly may have been. Either way, when multiple people are coming up with the same theories independently of each other, I figure that means we're on the right track to solving this absurd puzzle Yeah I used that as an explanation for why he has the ring in the desert to begin with. It's all good though. |
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Post by comicalArchitect on Apr 5, 2016 2:02:44 GMT
So, I think I've solved the mystery of the AH insert based on all of the clues we've been given. IDE: We have actually been completely mislead about the way that the AH author insert's timeline has gone. The whole DOTA scene with AH in the Sepulchritude shirt proposing to Vriska in the desert is actually the earliest point in his timeline that we've seen so far, and he has been in the dreambubbles the entire time--AH getting gunned down by Lord English (dressed like Calmasis, which I'll get into later) is the last point in his timeline (as far as we've seen, anyway). It doesn't actually make sense for the DOTA scene to have taken place after he got killed by Lord English, because we already know that ghosts generally appear in the clothes that they died in. Think about it--the Hussie mansion, as far as we've seen, is in the middle of a vast desert full of horses, next to a big ocean. This is actually exactly where he is now, in the exact same clothes we were first introduced to him in! The "fourth walls" he posesses don't actually exist in some kind of outside-of-the-story space... they're just ordinary fenestrated plane portals like Roxy has, and just like with Roxy's portals, the space between them that Jade and John pass through is in the dream bubbles, with the trip taking 3 years because the distance between the sessions is so great. Any weird goofy things that happen during the AH segments (like the wolf head showing up in the attic, or Falcor barfing on bullies) can then be explained as just dreambubble magic. IDE^2: Calmasis is a combined amalgamation of Alt!Calliope, Davepetasprite^2, and the other half of Gamzee, created as the opposite counterpart of Lord English, and Calmasis and LE are the two mirthful messiahs. This is why Calmasis appears to be wearing Calliope's clothes, Gamzee's grey skin, and Davepeta's hairstyle. Like, look at Calmasis's hair and Davepeta's side by side... they have the little curl and everything: Later, Calmasis and Lord English (the two mirthful messiahs) combine to create the AH insert, which is why they look so similar but not identical. SOMETHING has to account for AH's love of horses, and that's bound to be the ARquiusprite part of him. Alternate IDE^2: Calmasis IS the AH insert, and is created when they use the house juju against LE, which forces four individuals to combine into the four slots of the house juju: Lord English, Alt!Calliope, Davepetasprite^2, and 1/2 of Gamzee. They defeat him by transforming him into a more stable form, made of a perfectly balanced combination of brothers, moirails, two halves of a whole individual, and the Cal twins. Calmasis then ends up either painting his skin orange and donning a brown wig, or else changing his appearance via dreambubble magic. So basically, the full timeline would go: > Davepetapsprite^2 is inexplicably drawn to the battle against Lord English in a desert full of horses, because subconciously they know they're meant to be combined down the road > At some point alt!Calliope and 1/2 of Gamzee show up as well > Somehow in the final battle all of these components combine with Lord English to create the AH insert, possibly with Calmasis as an intermediary step but possibly not > the AH insert remains in the desert full of horses, but because time makes no sense in the dreambubbles, he runs into Vriska much earlier in her timeline and try to give her the Ring of Life (which is just the transformed Ring of Void that we see Caliborn with prior to becoming Lord English!) > the AH insert then does a bunch of dumb stuff in the dream bubbles (as seen in Openbound) and then follows Meenah/Vriska around, leading him to the ghost army battle against Lord English > some crazy battle stuff happens, the AH insert possibly watches his own creation happen because of dreambubble time weirdness > the AH insert decides to stay in the dreambubble desert and creates a mansion (or one is created from dreambubble memory magic) > the AH insert faithfully documents the craaaaazy tale that is Homestuck, retaining the exact same narrative control powers that Caliborn already possessed, but using a combination of the art styles of Calliope, Caliborn (right angles = aliased pixel style), Davesprite, and Dirk, and using Homosuck as a sort of "rough draft" > the AH insert eventually gets gunned down by Lord English, fulfilling the longstanding tradition of past selves hating their future selves and vice versa > Either something yet to be determined happens with the AH insert after death, or he's just straight up double-dead after that and that's the last we see of him
You're forgetting a crucial component of Lord English: Cal. To truly be his opposite, Calmasis would have to contain (or rather, be contained in) Lil Seb or someone else who can serve as Cal's opposite. |
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Post by Guest on Apr 5, 2016 2:10:24 GMT
Cal's opposite?
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ZAZZERPAN.
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 5, 2016 2:13:21 GMT
I have a feeling that given her extremist views and plans, god tier Calliope may at some point border on being an antagonist. Or at the very least, she's going to screw something up. Either that, or she was a red herring this whole time, and there's another alt!Calliope who's not as... ambiguously dark. If you think about it, she really seems a lot more sinister (or at least misguided) than the characters are giving her credit for. Since she was God Tier, she kind of had to have died a Just death, since it's heavily implied she only died by a Denizen mercy killing after failing to win the Conqueror's session. Unless Denizens can bypass God Tier immortality or something. Think about the girls who have interacted with her. Jade told Calliope that it was not long at all before i could tell she was good, but when we actually see them interacting, we see that Muse!Calliope provides absolutely nothing that seems to confirm her alignment either way. It becomes clear that Jade is kind of projecting what she wants to see on to the blank piece of paper that the Muse is giving her. Calliope believes that she is a failure, and that her doomed counterpart was able to do what she was supposed to do and is meant for more important things than her, so she isn't going to question her or her motives to any meaningful degree. And looking at it in a meta way, the fact that these two girls have both felt the need to say, out loud, that they didn't think she was bad....is more than a tad suspicious. Jade said so to Calliope in the above quote, Calliope said so to John ( not that i think she is dangeroUs or has ill intent. my impression was very mUch to the contrary.) and Jade felt the need to say something similar to Davepetasprite just the other day. ( JADE: i sincerely doubt she has ever done ANYTHING like a piece of garbage) Makes me go hmm. |
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Post by accipitrineOutlier on Apr 5, 2016 2:27:57 GMT
A certain theorist who shall not be named //coughBKEW// has a supposedly airtight argument "proving" that Dave will die in the endgame unless we get a call back to "a mother does what is best for her children" and Roxy steps in. I got to thinking, what if it's not Roxy who takes the hit and permadies? She's earned her happy ending, IMHO. What if it's Dirk instead? He's shown that he's willing to make sacrifices for the people he cares about, and he took an instant liking to Dave, admiring him even if he didn't fit the idea Dirk had about what his Bro would be like. Dirk's self-loathing over what his pre-scratch self did to Dave might be enough to convince him he has to sacrifice himself to earn his absolution. He isn't currently tied down in any relationships, either, so by plot standards he's pretty expendable. If any of the alpha kids are going to die, I feel like it's going to be Dirk.
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Post by BookwyrmBOTPH on Apr 5, 2016 4:35:01 GMT
Think about the girls who have interacted with her. Jade told Calliope that it was not long at all before i could tell she was good, but when we actually see them interacting, we see that Muse!Calliope provides absolutely nothing that seems to confirm her alignment either way. It becomes clear that Jade is kind of projecting what she wants to see on to the blank piece of paper that the Muse is giving her. Calliope believes that she is a failure, and that her doomed counterpart was able to do what she was supposed to do and is meant for more important things than her, so she isn't going to question her or her motives to any meaningful degree. And looking at it in a meta way, the fact that these two girls have both felt the need to say, out loud, that they didn't think she was bad....is more than a tad suspicious. Jade said so to Calliope in the above quote, Calliope said so to John ( not that i think she is dangeroUs or has ill intent. my impression was very mUch to the contrary.) and Jade felt the need to say something similar to Davepetasprite just the other day. ( JADE: i sincerely doubt she has ever done ANYTHING like a piece of garbage) Makes me go hmm. Yeah, I just don't know. At the very best, I don't think having her as the key player in Lord English's defeat to be narratively satisfying due to her lack of character development (hell, even the ALPHA TROLLS have had more development then her, and they're current involvement is barely important at all!) but at the worst, she could end up being an Aranea-like antagonist, who, despite possibly good intentions, just sort of shows up like a spazz, makes more things difficult for the protagonists only to get rekt and disappear. Come to think of it, alt!Calliope actually seems a lot like Aranea. She speaks mostly in meta-exposition and complicated plans, seems to be on the protagonist's side, but somewhat aloof, and thinks very highly of herself and her plans, despite mostly being confined to irrelevance out in the furthest ring. Maybe we're going to have some sort of callback to Aranea fucking stuff up in her misguided plan to save the universe from English. On another note, are there any thoughts on whether WV's dream sequence is about to become relevant all the sudden? With the symbolism of the dream army getting slaughtered by the Red Miles and Vriska showing up and talking about taking on the slayer by herself? |
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 5, 2016 5:22:30 GMT
Yeah, I just don't know. At the very best, I don't think having her as the key player in Lord English's defeat to be narratively satisfying due to her lack of character development (hell, even the ALPHA TROLLS have had more development then her, and they're current involvement is barely important at all!) but at the worst, she could end up being an Aranea-like antagonist, who, despite possibly good intentions, just sort of shows up like a spazz, makes more things difficult for the protagonists only to get rekt and disappear. Come to think of it, alt!Calliope actually seems a lot like Aranea. She speaks mostly in meta-exposition and complicated plans, seems to be on the protagonist's side, but somewhat aloof, and thinks very highly of herself and her plans, despite mostly being confined to irrelevance out in the furthest ring. Maybe we're going to have some sort of callback to Aranea fucking stuff up in her misguided plan to save the universe from English. I think it's doubtful she's even the Knight Templar type, who shoots for good but whose methods take it too far. I mean, what evidence do we have that she actually is good and wants good things to happen? She's sort of been....letting the Space girls (and the readers) just assume that was the case. On another note, are there any thoughts on whether WV's dream sequence is about to become relevant all the sudden? With the symbolism of the dream army getting slaughtered by the Red Miles and Vriska showing up and talking about taking on the slayer by herself? I completely missed this, but a bunch of people have been bringing it up and I think the idea is really cool. Especially since there'd be a tiny bit of inverted symmetry there wherein Jack shed his blood to make a pact with Karkat while Bec Noir robbed WV of his to get at the fuel in his stomach. |
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Post by BookwyrmBOTPH on Apr 5, 2016 6:23:31 GMT
On another note, are there any thoughts on whether WV's dream sequence is about to become relevant all the sudden? With the symbolism of the dream army getting slaughtered by the Red Miles and Vriska showing up and talking about taking on the slayer by herself? I completely missed this, but a bunch of people have been bringing it up and I think the idea is really cool. Especially since there'd be a tiny bit of inverted symmetry there wherein Jack shed his blood to make a pact with Karkat while Bec Noir robbed WV of his to get at the fuel in his stomach. I wrote a Tumblr post on this a bit ago with my thoughts on the parallels. An abridged, edited of my thoughts can be observed below. My belief is that the Carapacian dream army (carrying standards with the Light symbol) represents the ghost army currently being indirectly led by Vriska. It gets destroyed by the Red Miles, which has numerous times been a symbol of the Blood Aspect. This, in turn has been seen represented by Jack, the Mayor, and obviously, Karkat who is now not only with the ghost army headed to fight Lord English, but also apparently going to lead some sort of charge with the ghosts. Jack, WV, and Karkat all have interacted in significant ways throughout the comic and shown parallels to each other, leading me to believe that whatever the Red Miles destroying the army means, I feel it will have something to do with Karkat. Maybe we'll get a callback to WV's army getting wasted and him being the only survivor, only with Karkat in the place of the Mayor. The dream sequence continues with WV being approached by some “weird bug” that is obviously Vriska, who I'm pretty sure is about to nuke the Green Sun. The foreshadowing and signs of the Green Sun's destruction (at Vriska's hands in particular) have been there for as long as I can remember, but now, with Alt Calliope’s conversation with Jade, we have almost complete, 100% proof that the Green Sun is about to be destroyed. Not sure it can be clearer than this. The Green Sun, supreme source of power, is not going to be a problem for much longer. We see the ring powered WV with an out of place Green Sun/Light symbol on his chest for some reason. Earlier you also see the chunk of green uranium in a similar place, which is a clear symbol for the Tumor/Green Sun. We know Vriska is going after Lord English. She wants to destroy him herself, and presumably is only using the ghost army as a “distaction.” But Karkat doesn’t know this. He might just assume he and Meenah are going to lead the charge, instead of Vriska trying to solo the bigbad. If this wasn't her plan all along, I somehow doubt that the ghost army is going to do much good, and she'll probably abscond and engage in a lot of MACHIAVELLIAN LIMELIGHT GLUTTONY. There’s a couple of panels in which the weird bug Vriska goes up to the dreaming WV and blinks at him in Morse Code like Serenity. I took the liberty of translating this to regular text, and what came out gave me chills. HEY YOU!!!!!!!! JUST WHAT DO YOU THINK YOURE PLANNING ON DOING WITH THAT RING? WHATEVER IT IS FORGET IT! THE SLAYER IS MIIIIIIIINE ::  NOW W8KE UP! I SAID W88888888KE! Which, if you think about it, could easily be modified a tiny bit and quoted verbatim. And she's telling a Blood associated leader of men to W8KE UP. Karkat is sleeping, just saying. And then, if this wasn't crazy enough, immediately following the dream sequence, a mere page later, is the intense (S) Wake flash, which has the music… Oh god dammit. IT’S MEGALOVANIA. Are we going to get a version of Megalovania as at least one of the songs for the flash? (I actually kind of hope Toby either loaned out the Undertale version to the Huss or did yet another badass remix for this very occasion.) Either way, I'm 99% sure that the dream sequence is going to come into play SOMEHOW. Who else has been talking about this, out of curiosity? Besides the ever present BKEW, I haven't seen many people talking about this on Tumblr, not for lack of looking.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 5, 2016 13:30:59 GMT
If another flash does use Megalovania, people will probably think Homestuck stole music from Undertale which obviously ain't pretty.
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Post by Strawhat Luffy on Apr 5, 2016 13:51:38 GMT
Dude I've seen people saying Lord of the Ring books were a cheap attempt from Holywood to make a cash grab with the movies.
Human stupidity knows no boundaries.
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Post by Blaperile on Apr 5, 2016 14:08:49 GMT
If another flash does use Megalovania, people will probably think Homestuck stole music from Undertale which obviously ain't pretty. Homestuck already uses Megalovania in a flash so using it once again really shouldn't make a difference. And Toby Fox has been the one to create all Megalovania versions so far, so especially if HE creates another remix of it for Homestuck people shouldn't complain because it's still the same guy as the one who did a remix of it for Undertale. So then it's definitely not like any music has been stolen from anywhere. Imagine Earthbound Halloween Hack fans complaining that both Homestuck and Undertale have stolen it from them |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 14:18:23 GMT
I like those theories, but consider: elevatorstuck with meows as a "strife" theme.
We know Caliborn hates the song, and I can definitely see either sprite^2 trolling him to that.
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Post by therationaldove on Apr 5, 2016 15:31:57 GMT
I wouldn't think it would be a problem if they used/called back to Megalovania and if anyone complains to Toby or lets him know, he can clarify that this was something that was part of Homestuck long before it was part of Undertale. At this point, that song is more like Toby's musical signature than something that belongs to anything specific. Hell, if Toby worked on the music for Hiveswap, I wouldn't be surprised if he puts Megalovania in there somewhere.
Speaking of Toby, what's the likelihood of there being never before heard-of songs in the upcoing endgame Flash? I'm guessing Toby alongside other HS music artists have been submitting songs for use in the comic. Unless Hussie is just going to use songs that are already on the BandCamp page...
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