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Post by kmsumrall on Apr 8, 2016 8:13:24 GMT
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Post by candor on Apr 8, 2016 9:01:53 GMT
Movies, I think. And yes, I mean plural here. Acts 1-4, 5, and 6-7 would be cohesive narrative arcs for a trilogy, and you know how much Hollywood loves those.
Of course, we might wind up with something completely different within the same universe so... I've got nothing concrete besides that possibility.
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Post by pointycatears on Apr 8, 2016 9:04:19 GMT
I'm not sure if I like this idea. If they are making movies of it, would they be animated or live action? And would they be exactly like the comic, or would they have to remove things for time? Even adaptations that are faithful to the original still have some changes. And would they have a theatrical release or a straight-to-dvd release?
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Post by candor on Apr 8, 2016 9:07:56 GMT
Yeah, there's a lot that could go wrong here. I'm reserving judgement until we have more information, good or bad.
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Post by pointycatears on Apr 8, 2016 9:09:55 GMT
If it was an ongoing TV series or something, that would be easier to do.
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Post by candor on Apr 8, 2016 9:15:05 GMT
I like that, though the whole "Hollywood" thing makes it more likely to be live-action if it's a TV series. Though Homestuck has a fun habit of breaking expectations.
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 8, 2016 10:30:11 GMT
Yeah I can't see Homestuck working in live action.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 8, 2016 10:36:23 GMT
I really don't think Homestuck 2.0 would be a direct adaptation, more like a grand movie SEQUEL to the work.
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Post by therationaldove on Apr 8, 2016 11:36:17 GMT
I have no idea how to even being predicting HS 2.0 or what's in store for that.
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 8, 2016 12:26:01 GMT
I really don't think Homestuck 2.0 would be a direct adaptation, more like a grand movie SEQUEL to the work. I don't see a direct sequel working. Some other thing in the same Universe, like Hivebent? Sure. But Homestuck is so convoluted and complicated there's no way that a sequel would make sense to people who didn't read the comic. And a lot more people will come into 2.0. not having read it. Besides, depending on how the comic ends, there might not be any S***b or Paradox Space after it's over, so what would a sequel be about if that was the case?
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 8, 2016 12:35:01 GMT
I really don't think Homestuck 2.0 would be a direct adaptation, more like a grand movie SEQUEL to the work. I don't see a direct sequel working. Some other thing in the same Universe, like Hivebent? Sure. But Homestuck is so convoluted and complicated there's no way that a sequel would make sense to people who didn't read the comic. And a lot more people will come into 2.0. not having read it. Besides, depending on how the comic ends, there might not be any S***b or Paradox Space after it's over, so what would a sequel be about if that was the case? Yeah maybe. Not necessarily a sequel, more like a spin-off or something rather than a flat-out movie adaptation of the comic like everyone seems to think Homestuck 2.0 will be. Also, would it really be so hard to provide a brief backstory at the start of the movie (a long time ago, four teenagers played a video game ... but it turned out to be a lot crazier than they thought ... and so on)?
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 8, 2016 12:42:11 GMT
Also, would it really be so hard to provide a brief backstory at the start of the movie (a long time ago, four teenagers played a video game ... but it turned out to be a lot crazier than they thought ... and so on)? Yes, and if you don't believe me, go back and read some of the recaps. Then realize none of them covered even half of the content in the comic, but were still long, complicated, and at times hard to follow.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 8, 2016 12:55:01 GMT
Also, would it really be so hard to provide a brief backstory at the start of the movie (a long time ago, four teenagers played a video game ... but it turned out to be a lot crazier than they thought ... and so on)? Yes, and if you don't believe me, go back and read some of the recaps. Then realize none of them covered even half of the content in the comic, but were still long, complicated, and at times hard to follow. The backstory doesn't have to be in-depth at all! It can be super lightened down and still give us the gist of the comic. The backstory section wouldn't need to mention details elaborated in the recaps like how Davesprite came to be or the protagonists' origins. It could just be about creating a universe, the main villains against the team, and Lord English. Kinda like Wikipedia's summary of the comic but even shorter.
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 8, 2016 14:05:41 GMT
Yes, and if you don't believe me, go back and read some of the recaps. Then realize none of them covered even half of the content in the comic, but were still long, complicated, and at times hard to follow. The backstory doesn't have to be in-depth at all! It can be super lightened down and still give us the gist of the comic. The backstory section wouldn't need to mention details elaborated in the recaps like how Davesprite came to be or the protagonists' origins. It could just be about creating a universe, the main villains against the team, and Lord English. Kinda like Wikipedia's summary of the comic but even shorter. You'd be leaving a LOT out. Enough to make it, quite possibly, incomprehensible. And to be honest, even if you could find a way to make it work (maybe actually making a long and detailed account of what happened that goes on to the point it becomes an overly long gag, for instance) it's no substitute for the real thing and it just wouldn't make any sense to sink money into a sequel. That's a weird, unknown quantity. If you adapted Homestuck, you'd at least know what it was, how it goes, and how it ends, and you'd know there's a bunch of people who read it who'll watch the adaptation. But just making a sequel...there's no telling what happens there. It won't be as accessible even with the best possible Homestuck summary at the start of it, and the point of an adaptation is not just to please fans of the original but to draw in new eyes. A sequel won't do that as well as a straight adaptation would. It'd be like adapting a book series but starting with the second book. Frankly, I kind of hope this is an adaptation of Homestuck because it would allow Hussie to iron out some kinks. Homestuck is a truly epic comic but it does have its flaws; it has suffered from some pacing problems and lopsided character development among other things. If Hussie went once again into the breach, but did so this time knowing even more about how he wanted everything to go than he did the first time around, we could see something truly special. Something even more polished and amazing than the original. But I'll be excited about this whatever way this shakes out.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 8, 2016 14:40:20 GMT
The backstory doesn't have to be in-depth at all! It can be super lightened down and still give us the gist of the comic. The backstory section wouldn't need to mention details elaborated in the recaps like how Davesprite came to be or the protagonists' origins. It could just be about creating a universe, the main villains against the team, and Lord English. Kinda like Wikipedia's summary of the comic but even shorter. You'd be leaving a LOT out. Enough to make it, quite possibly, incomprehensible. And to be honest, even if you could find a way to make it work (maybe actually making a long and detailed account of what happened that goes on to the point it becomes an overly long gag, for instance) it's no substitute for the real thing and it just wouldn't make any sense to sink money into a sequel. That's a weird, unknown quantity. It does not have to be a long and detailed recap! And besides, even if some relevant stuff is left out from the backstory section, other aspects of the backstory could be talked about in the sequel movie itself.
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Post by alleywaycreeper on Apr 8, 2016 14:46:36 GMT
You'd be leaving a LOT out. Enough to make it, quite possibly, incomprehensible. And to be honest, even if you could find a way to make it work (maybe actually making a long and detailed account of what happened that goes on to the point it becomes an overly long gag, for instance) it's no substitute for the real thing and it just wouldn't make any sense to sink money into a sequel. That's a weird, unknown quantity. It does not have to be a long and detailed recap! And besides, even if some relevant stuff is left out from the backstory section, other aspects of the backstory could be talked about in the sequel movie itself. Anything short of a long, detailed recap is going to leave important stuff out. With another story, that wouldn't be a problem, but with this one...And if you have back story told during the sequel newcomers will be lost. They won't understand the relevance of things that reference Homestuck but weren't explained in the recap.
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Post by mementovivere on Apr 8, 2016 14:48:37 GMT
Ooh, it's nice to get some more confirmation that Homestuck 2.0 is a real project that's being worked on! I actually had the thought while rewatching Collide that the really dramatic anime-esque sequences during the Heir of Grief part could really work as a legit and powerful TV series (or movie, or whatever) if more time was spent fleshing out the animation. Hussie is increasingly stepping back and taking on a creative director role while hired artists do the actual drawing even with Homestuck proper, so I could see this being a kind of transition into Hussie directing creative teams for projects aside from just video games.
I'm not sure what to expect from Homestuck 2.0. I think an adaptation OR a sequel could work if it was done right, but obviously Homestuck would require some HEAVY editing and simplification to be presentable to someone new to the series. Who knows, maybe the nature of the ending of Homestuck will clue us in to what to expect next. Depending on how the sequel began, I don't know if it'd even be all that necessary to get into how things are the way they are, even moreso if the new story were to focus on different characters. I think I'd prefer an entirely new story over an adaptation of Homestuck, though--I like the Hiveswap approach.
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Post by therationaldove on Apr 8, 2016 16:38:06 GMT
Yeah, I have a felling that Hussie will want to make something new that people outside of HS can enjoy as much as people who have read the comic will enjoy. Something like a sequel seems a little hard to pull off, especially since you'd be asking newcomers to read a really long webcomic in order to want to see whatever Homestuck 2.0 ends up being.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 8, 2016 16:40:16 GMT
I'm thinking Homestuck 2.0 might be kinda similar to the movie of a TV show. How exactly does that sound?
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Post by The One Guy on Apr 8, 2016 17:45:28 GMT
We still have no confirmation that "Homestuck 2.0" is a specific project and not just general marketing or whatever. We also have no real proof it will directly relate to Homestuck or if it's Homestuck 2.0 in the same way Homestuck is Problem Sleuth 2.0.
But if it is... Well, just because something is a sequel doesn't mean it has to require knowledge of the original. You don't have to play Earthbound/Mother 2 to understand and enjoy Mother 3, you don't have to read the Hobbit to understand and enjoy the Lord of the Rings, and I could go on.
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Post by cookiefonster on Apr 8, 2016 17:47:51 GMT
We still have no confirmation that "Homestuck 2.0" is a specific project and not just general marketing or whatever. We also have no real proof it will directly relate to Homestuck or if it's Homestuck 2.0 in the same way Homestuck is Problem Sleuth 2.0. But if it is... Well, just because something is a sequel doesn't mean it has to require knowledge of the original. You don't have to play Earthbound/Mother 2 to understand and enjoy Mother 3, you don't have to read the Hobbit to understand and Enjoy the Lord of the Rings, and I could go on. Yes exactly! That's exactly what I'm trying to say about the whole idea of a Homestuck sequel.
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Post by NorthernDruid on Apr 8, 2016 19:38:30 GMT
I think if it was just something that used the setting, Alternia/troll culture or just Sburb with a session mostly unrelated from the homestuck narrative. Then it could work rather really well.
A full adaption or sequel would be unwieldy and unlikely to be both faithful to any degree and also acessible.
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Post by researcherwisemon on Apr 8, 2016 19:50:09 GMT
If "Homestuck 2.0" ends up being a television series, I'd love it if we got to see the Troll's session in greater detail. Despite the Bec!Interrupt at the end, it was pretty much a bog standard Sburb/Sgrub session, and it's alpha timeline length- about 600 hours- is just so much time that wasn't covered in comic.
Plus, there was that sly comment in Act5 that "in the more drawn out form of this narrative" the Double Mobius Reach Around would have been a huge surprise. It would be rather amusing if that ended up being retroactive foreshadowing to there actually being a "More drawn out form" of Act 5 Act 1. :33
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Post by kmsumrall on Apr 8, 2016 19:55:53 GMT
I'm not sure what I'd want from an HS 2.0. Animated series with Dante would be pretty tops. But then who for the writers along Huss? Rebecca Sugar is busy, the avatar guys are busy
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Post by quixoticTokki on Apr 9, 2016 0:19:12 GMT
If Homestuck were to be adapted into some sort of animated series I feel like the problem would be how to market it. If it's a television series, which channel would host it? Who would the target audience be? Not counting anime, I don't really watch any animated shows (aside from nostalgic shows from my childhood or Futurama) but it seems like cartoons in America are almost always either children's shows or adult comedies. Homestuck is neither of those. So I don't know where or how it would fit.
With that said, I do think if they can find a place for it - perhaps as a web series? - Homestuck has the potential to be a great animated show. Of course, personally I would love to see live-action movies but idk how likely or doable that is.
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