Undertale Discussion Thread

It definitely rates as one of my favorite games of all time. The only other game I've played that's sort of similar is Star Control 2, though it doesn't hit quite the same set of themes.
I've also had a lot of fun making fake screenshots of it. Trying to imitate Toby's unique humor was a really fun exercise.

Some videos:

One of the game review channels that I follow, The Completionist,recently did a very interesting and in-depth review of Undertale. It's pretty interesting to check out.



Game Theory also posted a theory about Sans a while ago, but I'll just put it up for the hell of it. It's pretty far-fetched and slightly stupid, but I like to watch it to get a nice laugh.



Finally: the most important video of them all. I know that Toby has a fair number of versions of Megalovania out there, but the best version by far is with more airhorn

Game of the year every year.

the only good thing to have ever come out of that game was /r/undertail

This is the only thing I live for now.



In all seriousness tho, Undertale is one of my favourite games of all time. Is it weird that I ship Flowey and the tsundere cactus?

I think just seeing an animation Undyne and Vriska fight each other would be good enough for me.

i accidentally killed toriel in my first playthrough, didn't know what to do, reset the game when i had to go pacifist and he did it ALL AGAIN

I had the opposite experience, but only because that's kind of how I play games anyway. 99% of the time if I start a new game, it's because I've seen someone else play all or part of it and I want to do it too. That said, I found out I was actually really bad at Undertale. I actually died to Greater Dog twice! And Papyrus almost killed me. Toriel would have gotten me if she had wanted to. And this after seeing people fight these enemies multiple times.

Eeeeeeh I'm pretty sure if Sans killed Vriska it'd be Just, because you kind of have to be a complete monster to get Sans to fight you.

Its all a matter of 'can he dodge her attacks for long enough to kill her'.

Yeah the whole Just argument is a good point. Although I was actually thinking in terms of a simple arena situation, no sins involved. But I guess at the same time Sans probably wouldn't even fight in that situation now that I think about it. xD

But yeah, the fact that you need to be lucky to hit Sans and Vriska's ability is all about luck stealing, plus Ancestral Awakening and the fact that she's a really good fighter who is powerful enough to fight Jack Noir, is the main reason why I think she would win easily. The thing is, both characters are rule breakers. Sans' fighting strategy is all about rule breaking. He dodges every attack rather than taking damage, his attacks leave a poison effect and his bones can attack you when you're simply on the menu. Vriska is known for cheating as well as her luck stealing. They both will cheat. Sans will break the rules so that Vriska's luck won't work. But Vriska could cheat so that she can get a blow on Sans. And she's good at manipulating her dice with her luck in order for the dice to give her the outcome she wants, which is probably cheating. Now that I think about it may turn out to be a draw. This fight really needs to happen. 

She does have her luck abilities though. She could probably make so that the human cant reset or something. I'm not quite sure how far luck can go though and whether it would actually be capable of doing that. But judging from Act5 her luck is strong enough that the floor beneath an enemies can crumble under there feet.

I'm not going to say anything bad, because I did that too. I didn't mean to kill him!! Honestly!! I didn't mean to kill Toriel either, but I thought that you had to fight bosses, and that them dying was supposed to happen, I had no idea that the game changes depending on how you play it. I admit I did kill Undyne on purpose, but only because due to how I had been playing, she said she was going to kill me and I felt threatened. Even if that hadn't happened, I still wouldn't have known how to win without killing her. I thought that the fan art I saw of these characters being friends was misleading after I started playing, but after my first game, I found that you could be friends with them, and I'd done everything wrong.

Basically, I got so frustrated with dying all the time that I started fighting encounters all the time, not bothering trying to spare them because it took more than one step where I could easily die in between. Sometimes I was lucky enough to spare them when their health was low enough, other times, they just died, but like I said, I had no idea that the game changed depending on your decisions, so I didn't know there would be consequences, and when I got towards the end of the game, I felt bad. It didn't help that I didn't know you could spare bosses, although I did manage not to kill Mettaton, but apparently he is hard to kill unless you're trying to keep the ratings down (Which I didn't know was actually important to the fight). But then I still killed Flowey because he scared me so much, and I regret that because if I hadn't, he would have told me to play again without killing anyone, and I wouldn't have looked online and spoiled the good ending for myself.

But yes, I guess it is better to play it without knowing how it works, because it does show you what kind of person you are, and it showed me that I tend to do things without thinking, and that just gets worse when I get frustrated from not being able to do something, like constantly dying even to random encounters - seriously, that's how bad I was on my first game. It's funny because that's the sort of thing Flowey warns you about at the end of the Ruins if you haven't killed anyone, he'll say that you may get so frustrated with constantly dying that you'll start killing just to get it over with, and that happened too early with me. The fact that the only way to spare Toriel was to constantly press the Spare button didn't help, because previously I'd tried to spare monsters right away and it didn't work, so I thought it the only option was to fight, which was a trap many first-time players fell into. It also showed me that I usually think there is only one way to do things when other ways don't seem to work, and it's taught me that maybe I should see if things can be done in other ways that aren't so bad.

I don't really play games, but I played this one because it was everywhere on the internet, and it was one of the best decisions I've made. I've played it many times, I think maybe in the summer, I'll play it again. Every game since my first has been Pacifist, and that's not going to change because I don't want to ruin the good ending. Say anything you like about me not being brave enough to kill everyone, but I'm proud of myself for resisting the urge that comes from my curiosity to hear what the slowed-down music sounds like. There's probably somewhere else I can listen to that anyway.